The Operative Nerf

All they gotta do is make the opener fill resolve again. Problem solved.

Dude it is a buff ... last week i was able to actually "fight" them as a fully geared battlemaster guardian ... now i just feel like there is no difference if it s me or my cat playing ... 10 sec max and i m dead

The damage is still out of control ... 630 expertise and i still get hit for an average of 2k5 every 1.5 sec ...

Actually reacting in half a second is slow. You SHOULD be able to react in 0.03 seconds. It takes less than that time for the signal to get to your fingers. The reflexes of most people catching an object falling off the table are around that fast. So you're should be at least that fast.


Now, regardless of how FAST you are, the game won't respond that quickly. So, for the sake of arguement:

0.0 sec Opener
0.5 sec Break CC button pressed
<1.0 sec but <1.6 sec the game reacts fast enough for you to break stun and move out of melee range, and or return a CC.

Either way, it's a full GCD that you're unable to return.

Let us know how it goes for you tonight.

They've got crack BW staff on it! Coming Soon (TM) in 2013!

I thought everyone just removed their trinket when fighting operatives. Or was that just forum BS to get the nerfs rolling?

Either you are trolling or there is something wrong in your template / gear / gameplay.

The only problem i had with op was IF they opened me AND if i did'nt have my CC breaker on, which, even with ~650 expertise, was bringing me to 30% health at worst vs well geared operatives...

If i got the jump on them i was destroying them, if i trinketed and used CC / defensive CD, i was destroying them.

In all honesty i always thought that operatives had an opening burst pretty ridiculous wich needed some kind of nerf but, toe to toe, they are rather weak.

Actually, they need to reduce the crit chance mechanic for the two classes.

Stims or not, Operatives/Scoundrels crit all the time.

Think about YOUR CLASS. Regardless of what it is, think about how hard you hit when you actually get a decent crit. Well, Ops/scoundrels crit like that ALL THE TIME!

So... The only time you had a problem with them is if they are stupid, or if they were wailing on someone else?

I get it...

I get that a lot of PvPers care way too much about 1v1. Ops/Smugs certainly can be frustrating in that environment, but isn't that the point of the class?

As far as I'm concerned, if you're stealthed, you're not capping objectives. You're also not killing me - apart from the opener. I know you can defend a bit from stealth, at least against one opponent. That doesn't seem overpowered.

With all my heals off cooldown - and with a 5.5s delay at the start, they pretty much are - I can heal myself from 1% to full in 12 to 17 seconds, depending on your interrupts. Either my bubble was up and ate a chunk of your opener, or even better - I put it up after the stun is over and you have to get through it with your plinky non-opener DPS.

I don't care that I can't kill you if you can't kill me.