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Dungeon Finder Needed Badly


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Touchbass
01.30.2012 , 03:44 PM | #351
Quote: Originally Posted by Racheakt View Post
Hopefully

I just know i spent an hour spamming LFG and flagging myself LFG in the excuse called a tool that is there now last night.... UNG stuck in fleet once i got a group I had to wait for the tank to make his way back from Nar Shadaa cause he went questing while his buddy continued to spam for a healer for another 20 min.


What is happening now as i did with my main, I out level/outgear the instances and run them solo. I want to be out doing things -- not standing in a cargo bay spamming LFG.
I spend an hour and a half before my "you cannot run a flashpoint if you want to get to work on time" point trying to find a group and I was the only person flagged However I did notice that if you flag yourself LFG it shows on your characters name in-game. I'm sure a lot of valuable development went into that idea.

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Racheakt
01.30.2012 , 03:46 PM | #352
Quote: Originally Posted by Neiloch View Post
...... Some small sense of retribution. It's when the sociopaths go on a nerdrage trying to get everyone that will listen to ban a single person because they got slighted that problems arise.
Like now, I have seen at least one argument in general:

Person A is posting LFG

Purson B claims Person A is a ninja and a scrub do not group with him

Person A protests.


How do you know who is right? you don't. This is why I don't think this rep thing is what people think it is.


For the record I decided to group with Person A -- the run went fine. Still looking for the opportunity to do a group with B to see if he was the problem

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Neiloch
01.30.2012 , 03:53 PM | #353
Quote: Originally Posted by Racheakt View Post
...For the record I decided to group with Person A -- the run went fine. Still looking for the opportunity to do a group with B to see if he was the problem
Only time I wouldn't group with someone that other people say is bad is if that person actually says they did it in some snotty way.

Guy A: Hey guy b just ninja'd a piece of loot then left the group! don't group with him!
Guy B: yeah i did it so what gonna cry some moar lol shuddup looser

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Manathayria
01.30.2012 , 04:10 PM | #354
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlacke View Post
No one would mind that, most people like myself are against cross server LFD, not the tool itself, if the system was server isolated.

And yes the problem is that some people who are advocating for this tool actually do want a blatant copy of WoW's system, you can just tell that from reading their posts.

On the other hand there is a ton of people who didn't like WoW's cross server thing at all.
The idea of people from another server whom you most likely will never see again can just hop in group isn't everyone's cup of tea really.
I think we refer back to WoW's cross server tool because it is one that's used in both WoW and Rift. It's the only one most people have prior experience with.

I used the server-only LFG/LFD back in BC and a few other LFG systems in other games. Like AoC's global LFM disaster which likely only works because it's a relatively low pop game anyway - they are now down to 3-4 servers with 1 or 2 of those begging for a merge.

I've given reference to a few 'new' ideas for an x-server/server tool. To include supporting the concept of a server only tool within an x-server one.

Also the more recent one for 'what about rewarding you for grouping with people that are friended or in guild.

Cross server friends lists are a very real thing in other games as well, so you could really spend some time combining the three concepts - include an account wide friend/ignore for if you add someone (something guild wars does/did flawlessly) and right there, it's an old system with a lot of new things added into it to help 'community' and to help people get groups running easier.

Understand, unless someone hits a major breakthrough on ideas, there's no point in reinventing the wheel. Improve - yes, and that's what we're discussing.

If we get cross server there's a lot of things I'd like to see put into place and changed - if we get server only there's still a lot of odd and end features that might be nice additions. To include changing loot rolls so they're [need] [companion] [greed] [disassemble].

To toss around the one idea more - they could run with the concept of rewards for running with guild or friends - or a reward for venturing into a full pug/a combination of the two is something else that may help with 'community'.

'you are grouping with someone that's a friend, you get x token for that'
'you are grouping with 1 new person that you do not have on friends list or in guild, you get x token for that'

And if you have both someone friended in the group, and one or two full on pugs, you get both rewards maybe?

I don't know, just tossing ideas out to the crowd in this case.

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Manathayria
01.30.2012 , 04:18 PM | #355
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass View Post
I spend an hour and a half before my "you cannot run a flashpoint if you want to get to work on time" point trying to find a group and I was the only person flagged However I did notice that if you flag yourself LFG it shows on your characters name in-game. I'm sure a lot of valuable development went into that idea.
I actually tried using that as a seacom just to see if I could. I kept getting tells asking me if I wanted to do heroics so I threw up a 'In group, PuG - No thanks' comment and got nowhere with that - I ended up with MORE tells and quickly dropped the flag. Noticed a few weeks ago that little marker was on for the LFG though.

I had a flash back to the /seaall searches from FFXI or I likely wouldn't have tried it at all.



To be honest, the first time I saw the little symbol with the people by someone's name at release, my first thought had been that they were a party leader - not that they were LFG/LFM. I'd never really used LFG in here during the beta weekends I had access to.

The three purple guys by your name reminded me of the marks we had above us when flag was up in FFXI. The green circled ? was for those of us that were just LFG, and a red circled ! meant you auto accepted the invite if I remember right - the idea had been that the red ! was just 'I want a group, don't care where we're going if it's levels' but by the time NA release hit that kinda was a flag to the JP players that you weren't that good at the game as you couldn't normally find a party, and so you were avoided if you used it while LFG.

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Touchbass
01.30.2012 , 04:37 PM | #356
Two things on my agenda, well three actually.

1) The next patch is sometime in march, think we'll see a fix? I really can't believe Bioware is going to stall anymore with the uproar going on. They need to give us something, I'm not waiting 3-4 months for a tool that may or may not work.

2) Has anyone put any thought into the DPS queues in this game? With a ratio of 2 support for 2 dps it scares me what queues are going to be if people can't find groups within hours of searching

3) Want to test out this spoiler tag:

Spoiler

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WynnK
01.30.2012 , 05:08 PM | #357
+1 Looking for Flashpoint and Operations both cross-server.

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Lossee
01.30.2012 , 06:52 PM | #358
I really dont care if its cross server or not. I just want to be able to look for a group while im out doing dailies rather than sit in the fleet for hours on end looking for a group.

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Touchbass
01.30.2012 , 07:04 PM | #359
Quote: Originally Posted by Lossee View Post
I really dont care if its cross server or not. I just want to be able to look for a group while im out doing dailies rather than sit in the fleet for hours on end looking for a group.
Amen.

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Neiloch
01.30.2012 , 07:04 PM | #360
I hope even the people who are against a DF outright in any form start to realize the longer we go without a LFG upgrade of some sort, the more people simply won't care even if its full on WoW DF with cross server.

The longer people go without water the less they care where it comes from.

So really if you don't want cross server, I would suggest you start REALLY pushing a same server DF be put in right the **** now. Based off how things are heading that's the only thing that could possibly prevent it.