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if you want to invite me to party, ASK ME first.

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ManOSteal
01.30.2012 , 05:16 PM | #401
Quote: Originally Posted by Kabjat View Post
This is something I have noticed too! I almost ALWAYS whisper the person who blind invited me with, "Hi there. Whatcha need?" or some variant, before I will consider accepting the invite. After all, it wouldn't help to group unless we both needed the same thing, would it?

As a general rule, the person won't answer me...AT ALL. It's almost like they are WILLFULLY refusing to answer my question until I accept their ninja-invite.

I really don't get it.

People defending this practice say that those of us who are ENDEAVORING to communicate are the ones that are anti-social for not accepting random party invites!

It's highly illogical to me, but it only makes me want to hear more from people about it.
I can definitely state that if I send out a ninja request and get a tell asking me why I will respond every time.
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Magnijung
01.30.2012 , 05:18 PM | #402
If someone is spamming you, /ignore the player.

If you get a random invite in Ilum, that's cool I think.

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boobaffet
01.30.2012 , 05:26 PM | #403
Quote: Originally Posted by VorpalK View Post
If I'm in the middle of combat when you invite me, you're getting turned down and /ignored. I'm busy. Wait until after or deal with it.
Multitasking is too hard

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Kabjat
01.30.2012 , 05:32 PM | #404
Quote: Originally Posted by ManOSteal View Post
I can definitely state that if I send out a ninja request and get a tell asking me why I will respond every time.
If so, then I will likely accept without a problem as long as our objectives match up and I have the time to group with someone.

It's the people who seem resistant to this that make me hesitant to group with them. Call me old fashioned, but ignoring an inquiry about the reasons for the invite seem to be a bit rude. xD
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
Are you playing TOR on an Atari Potato?

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Kabjat
01.30.2012 , 05:33 PM | #405
Quote: Originally Posted by boobaffet View Post
Multitasking is too hard
Apparently, it's also too hard to /tell in favor of /invite.
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
Are you playing TOR on an Atari Potato?

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Kabjat
01.30.2012 , 05:55 PM | #406
Quote: Originally Posted by Kindara View Post
Just thought I'd throw in my 2 cents even if its already been said before; its simply to add to the point that...Blind Invites are sometimes under some circumstances annoying.

1. Blind Invites when we're both hunting the same mob and its the only mob that counts aren't bad infact I dont mind them at all. Its nice if someone asks but I'll still take them since it works out well for all players involved.

2. Blind Invites are incredibly annoying when I'm in the middle of a battle or simply just surfing about (traveling). Suddenly your enjoying a ride through an area looking for craft nodes or just to get somewhere boom pop up in your face for god knows what. Even worse is if I'm in a battle and I'm try not to die.

3. Blind Invites when I'm simply sitting at the mail box because someone sees I'm a Tank and they need a tank is annoying. I won't accept them. Mos toften I'm at the mail box waiting on something, sending something to an alt or maybe I just logged in and its where i left off.

It just seems if you want to be Social and Group you'd be Social and take 10 - 15 seconsd to go "Hey we're hunting X or doing X flash point we could use you would you like to come" or even shorter if your to inept to type. I don't expect every single person to adhere to basic MMO etiquette, just as that person should not expect me to care and or answer their harrassment when they question or insult me because I hit no.

I refuse random invites most often because
A. you were being unsocial or rude by interrupting a fight you can clearly see I'm in
B. Maybe I'm not interested in doing whatever it is your doing
C. I'm likely waiting on a friend to log in so we can go and do something without you.
D. I'm already done questing there and I'm simply heading back to the NPC's to turn the quest in.

Several of these would quickly be answered if the person took afew seconds to ask. You dont go to a bar and simply grab someone and force them to dance and not get pissed off do you? No because that would likely get you punched or kicked out. (Wandering up to people and simply dancing next to them when they're dancing doesn't count in this example).

I'm far from being an expert, but it is looking like the players who have responded in a hostile, mocking, or sarcastic way to those who DO NOT like blind invites are the ones who place a PREMIUM on doing things as efficiently and quickly as possible in order to reach level 50.

It's the ones whose main objective is to reach level cap so that they can experience the 'REAL" part of the game who seem so baffled as to WHY on EARTH anyone would wish to bog the whole process down with needless chatter. To them, it's not personal, it's BUSINESS. They don't have time to mess around with pleasantries and anyone who does likely move too slowly through content for their liking.

To over simplify the issue, I think the blind inviters would be more likely to space bar through a flashpoint and become irritated with someone in their group who didn't. This is where COMMUNICATION is vital to the success of any group, before any invites go out.

This attitude assumes EVERYONE must have the same goal as them, so it stands to reason that EVERYONE would want to group up to speed everything up. This attitude assumes that EVERYONE must have the same playstyle as you,

I ask these type of players to try and understand where I'm coming from here.

There are those of us who place importance on a simple word of inquiry from someone wanting to party with us. That's not asking much at all. If you think it is, then I know that grouping with you would not be fun, hence my auto-decline.

Please understand. I really am NOT talking down to anyone here. I simply reserve the right to my own opinion and hope that those who disagree with me will do so in an adult and respectful way.
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
Are you playing TOR on an Atari Potato?

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Tyndaleon
01.30.2012 , 05:57 PM | #407
I agree in general with the OP (but also agree with the person who posted the situational/'it depends' approach). Actually though, in some ways what gets me more are people who actually do try to communicate, but do it via /say instead of a tell/whisper, and then in some cases get cheesed off and send a rude tell followup or make rude gestures at you when you had no idea they were trying to communicate in the first place.

Most people I know rarely pay attention to either General or /say unless they pointedly need to do so, as they've setup custom chat tabs to cater to isolate guild or party communication and cut out the public spam stuff. If someone sends me a tell, I'll always see it and almost always respond unless its a spammer or someone being rude, but I almost never catch something said in /say.
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pjskull
01.30.2012 , 06:05 PM | #408
How on god's green earth is this thread 41 pages long...?

It should have the subtitle "I'm uptight about minor things."

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Kabjat
01.30.2012 , 06:15 PM | #409
Quote: Originally Posted by pjskull View Post
How on god's green earth is this thread 41 pages long...?

It should have the subtitle "I'm uptight about minor things."
not so minor if it's reached 41 pages. It's obviously a rather divisive topic.

It's commonplace in the general forums for people to say something that contributes nothing constructive. I still respect your opinion, though, even though you don't seem to care about anyone else's.
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
Are you playing TOR on an Atari Potato?

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Kabjat
01.30.2012 , 06:21 PM | #410
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyndaleon View Post
I agree in general with the OP (but also agree with the person who posted the situational/'it depends' approach). Actually though, in some ways what gets me more are people who actually do try to communicate, but do it via /say instead of a tell/whisper, and then in some cases get cheesed off and send a rude tell followup or make rude gestures at you when you had no idea they were trying to communicate in the first place.

Most people I know rarely pay attention to either General or /say unless they pointedly need to do so, as they've setup custom chat tabs to cater to isolate guild or party communication and cut out the public spam stuff. If someone sends me a tell, I'll always see it and almost always respond unless its a spammer or someone being rude, but I almost never catch something said in /say.
Yeah, this too.

Some people in this thread have come up with great alternatives that could perhaps meet these two viewpoints in the middle.

BW should change the invite system so that the person doing the inviting is required to check off the quest they want to do, or just a quick explanation of what they wanna group for, if the person being invited does not share any of the same quests as the one who is blind inviting. This way, the invitee can quickly ascertain the reasons without wondering. Everyone wins.

This would satisfy the invitee's need for clarification as to the purpose of the invite

It would also satisfy the blind inviter's need for efficiency and speed.
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
Are you playing TOR on an Atari Potato?