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Autoface: The reason why ranged is imbalanced

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Autoface: The reason why ranged is imbalanced

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Kuari
01.30.2012 , 05:56 PM | #231
Quote: Originally Posted by Dee-Jay View Post
Wait...wait...what?

Are you telling me ranged classes automatically face their targets?
So do melee, and there's plenty of use of LoS and ability to use positionals if you know what you're doing.
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Ipsemeter
01.30.2012 , 05:57 PM | #232
Quote: Originally Posted by Vesperr View Post
oh boy...

On topic though - gunslingers/snipers arent considered "OP" as sorcs and mercs so they can either have their autoface on only while in cover or, preferably, BW can add some animation for turning around in cover (or use the one when you shoot). Easy, right?
How is it trolling when a change is being discussed to range class, and many of you haven't any clue how some of the range classes work, or as has been discussed, that Gunslingers and Snipers do not have auto-facing abilities unless in Cover? Vying to remove an ability and not even understanding how it will affect other classes outside your personal opinion of what is op and what is not is just... irresponsible.

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JediMasterShake
01.30.2012 , 06:02 PM | #233
Quote: Originally Posted by Makar View Post
If you're standing toe to toe with melee, then you can't really complain when they run behind you... You have abilities to keep people at range, because you're a ranged class ^^
If you are implying that, as a ranged class, you never target a player who is within 12 meters of you with a straight cast (since a player can easily cover 12 meters in 2 seconds), you are bad at video games.
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Doxxs
01.30.2012 , 06:08 PM | #234
as far as I know a sniper can't pivot in cover without popping himself out of cover...so this deal won't fly.

You have to give snipers something to allow them to counter bunny hopping and stay in cover.
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olagaton
01.30.2012 , 06:10 PM | #235
easy fix - only allow autofacing within a 4 meter range.

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Stealthsultan
01.30.2012 , 06:11 PM | #236
Kuari:
I'm not really talking about gunslingers: I feel your pain. You are forced into being immobile as a slinger and due to the fact that you can't turn in cover: you need autoface until they change cover. Basically gunslinger needs a revamp in pvp to be less dependent on cover. I am talking about the other ranged classes as the representation is low for slingers.
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Evuke
01.30.2012 , 06:14 PM | #237
your points are solid and i agree.

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Kuari
01.30.2012 , 06:16 PM | #238
Quote: Originally Posted by Stealthsultan View Post
Kuari:
I'm not really talking about gunslingers: I feel your pain. You are forced into being immobile as a slinger and due to the fact that you can't turn in cover: you need autoface until they change cover. Basically gunslinger needs a revamp in pvp to be less dependent on cover. I am talking about the other ranged classes as the representation is low for slingers.
I'm also talking from an assassin perspective though... and having played some guardian/juggarnaut. I understand that mercs/commandos for sure need some nerfing given how powerful they are. Ridiculously so, but their autofacing is far from the reason. And the only other real true ranged combo is sage/sorc.. that's all shield and AoE damage that people complain about. Force lightning some, but channels aren't exactly something removing auto facing from works well with.

I'll teach Juggs/Guards and Sents/Maras a trick... did the range hitting you make you target them? OK.. stop moving, press charge. You're next to them now if they aren't a cover class .
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JediMasterShake
01.30.2012 , 06:17 PM | #239
Quote: Originally Posted by Evuke View Post
Anyone who thinks WoW is credentials for anything is a little deluded, infact saying you used to play WoW should be a dirty little secret that you don't tell anyone, like watching Sex and the City.

But your points are solid and i agree.
And playing TOR should mean what exactly... because it is exactly the same game as WoW, except tons of story and worse gameplay. Oh and lightsabers. Can't forget those.
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Bazookahero
01.30.2012 , 06:19 PM | #240
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2.4k rating rival titles in wizcleave
rofl

It was a good post though, I totally agree with the autoface/interrupt points you made