Autoface: The reason why ranged is imbalanced

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Autoface: The reason why ranged is imbalanced

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JediMasterShake

01.30.2012 , 05:37 PM \| #221	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Bovinity I'm not sure why running through someone is considered "lame" or something. It's not like it stops them from casting, it really only works against people who are keyboard turning or are otherwise very slow in their movements. Wrong. You are casting a 2 second spell. Melee runs through you just as spell is being fired. You whip your character around to try and maintain your front facing... But if you DONT, which is a very normal possibility, your spell fails and you lose that 2 seconds of cast time. Completely wasted. That's huge, obviously. Now, you may just say, "L2P" or "suck it up", but there is a difference between challenging gameplay and stupid and unrewarding gameplay.
Make a fast break, or that'll be the last mistake that <bleep> will make, is what you get for messin' with Master Shake.

Makar

01.30.2012 , 05:39 PM \| #222	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by JediMasterShake Wrong. You are casting a 2 second spell. Melee runs through you just as spell is being fired. You whip your character around to try and maintain your front facing... But if you DONT, which is a very normal possibility, your spell fails and you lose that 2 seconds of cast time. Completely wasted. That's huge, obviously. Now, you may just say, "L2P" or "suck it up", but there is a difference between challenging gameplay and stupid and unrewarding gameplay. I'm fine with the autofacing in the game... But really, being upset that "Ranged" are required to stay at "range" to be effective is just silly.
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JediMasterShake

01.30.2012 , 05:44 PM \| #223	Quote
Yea, actually I wasn't trying to take a stance in either direction in the greater argument, just pointing out how that guy's statement was wrong.
Make a fast break, or that'll be the last mistake that <bleep> will make, is what you get for messin' with Master Shake.

Kuari

01.30.2012 , 05:46 PM \| #224	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Makar I'm fine with the autofacing in the game... But really, being upset that "Ranged" are required to stay at "range" to be effective is just silly. You can maybe say that if all melee closers and CC were taken away.
Standards are made to be broken. - Crie - 50 Sniper - Engineer spec - - Kuari - 35 Assassin - Tank spec -

Makar

01.30.2012 , 05:47 PM \| #225	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by JediMasterShake Yea, actually I wasn't trying to take a stance in either direction in the greater argument, just pointing out how that guy's statement was wrong. If you're standing toe to toe with melee, then you can't really complain when they run behind you... You have abilities to keep people at range, because you're a ranged class ^^
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Makar

01.30.2012 , 05:47 PM \| #226	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Kuari You can maybe say that if all melee closers and CC were taken away. Ranged have their own CC/Roots/Snares, I can say that now...
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Kuari

01.30.2012 , 05:51 PM \| #227	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Makar Ranged have their own CC/Roots/Snares, I can say that now... They have almost as many in other games too, but in ones with what you want, melee heavy groups always beat range heavy, unlike the fairly even state things are in now. The only ones there is significant issue with are merc/commandos, and arguably sorcs/sages, but that's more AoE damage that's easily healed and their shield.
Standards are made to be broken. - Crie - 50 Sniper - Engineer spec - - Kuari - 35 Assassin - Tank spec -

Makar

01.30.2012 , 05:53 PM \| #228	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Kuari They have almost as many in other games too, but in ones with what you want, melee heavy groups always beat range heavy, unlike the fairly even state things are in now. I don't see the problem.... Melee are supposed to overrun ranged, there's no point of them being ranged if it were otherwise. Else they'd just be melee casters.
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Dee-Jay

01.30.2012 , 05:54 PM \| #229	Quote
Wait...wait...what? Are you telling me ranged classes automatically face their targets? OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL... That explains so much.... OLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.... I still can't fathom it... Is this what Bioware's "vast PvP experience" gave us?

Kuari

01.30.2012 , 05:54 PM \| #230	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Makar I don't see the problem.... Melee are supposed to overrun ranged, there's no point of them being ranged if it were otherwise. Else they'd just be melee casters. Uhh, no, games are supposed to have some state of balance. There's plenty of point to ranged without getting their asses constantly kicked. Getting overrun with ease is not balance.
Standards are made to be broken. - Crie - 50 Sniper - Engineer spec - - Kuari - 35 Assassin - Tank spec -

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