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Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

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Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

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TheBigBee
01.30.2012 , 02:40 PM | #201
Having a class make-up to beat another class make-up is not hardcore pvp... That is why arena is a fail....Has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with group make-up. 8 on 8 rated waz-zones will be much more of a skill test... and thats comming soon... cant wait
PUT YOUR HELMET ON !!!

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makovian
01.30.2012 , 04:14 PM | #202
Ok this is starwars to think of starwars and no 2vs2 2vs1 1vs1

If u truly believe that doseent belong in starwars u are playing the wrong game

Powerbattels mmmm

How they go about it when it dose hapion not if will define this game

And btw wow arena system sucked I'd rather see it be more competion rated and NO GEAR ADVANTAGE

Redefine mmo pvp make this game be the best pvp mmo

Think outside the box and think starwars pvp

ATM I see a form of wag ab and sota come on its seedy going the wrong way

Demand better now or be doomed to at starWOW

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Viscerus
01.30.2012 , 04:22 PM | #203
Only way I'd be ok with Arena was if it only gave vanity rewards like mounts, titles and vanity costumes.

Arena creates this horrible gap that is so ahrd to overcome.

All the people in full battlemaster who make full battlemaster teams would end up at the top of the arena ladder adn get the best arena gear the fastest and just squat there. People who come to the table later get screwed.

It also leads to balancing around stupid team make-ups. Because only 2 variations of 3v3 are viable or only one is the best, some people get shut otu of arena completely and can't ever get their gear.

Arena is crap.

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Elisaveta
01.30.2012 , 04:39 PM | #204
I wonder why so many people want arenas. I can only conclude it is for the following reasons:

-Something to show off perceived leetness (With gear, titles, ratings, etc)

-I liked this system in WoW, why WOULDN'T Star wars do the same thing?!
WoW and arenas:
"When they introduced resilience and arenas.
It split the community in two and we never recovered".

-I don't like potentially queuing with scrubs in my team

-I like a challenge (THEN SOLO QUEUE!!! Or setup matches in world pvp, etc but most people won't do this because they have nothing to show for it. Going back to my first point).

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HBninjaX
01.30.2012 , 04:40 PM | #205
probably because they feel like it will be a detriment to the game. I don't really care either way, I love PVP and fair 1v1 fights but I get fulfillment from WZ and just running around ganking.

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Metalmac
01.30.2012 , 04:48 PM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by Bovinity View Post
Because they come from WoW, and in WoW there was a very widespread - but very mistaken - perception that every single change to class mechanics and numbers was due solely to PvP.

"Stop nerfing my PvE because of Arena!" was a very, very common cry from people. They usually ignored the fact that most changes were due to PvE concerns as well.

The Warrior Shield Slam damage nerf was a good example. The PvE community whined and whined that their PvE was being nerfed because of PvP, even though Blizzard very clearly stated that they wanted to spread out Prot Warrior damage across their other abilities rather than having 80% of Prot Warrior damage in PvE come from one button.

It's funny, because in general PvP balance and fixes were practically ignored by Blizzard. Legendary quality PvE items in PvP, Arena maps that STILL had serious terrain bugs (Feared into the wall again, yay...) and other issues that just never got addressed.

So now we have these people in SWTOR, and they're just petrified of the idea of any sort of organized, competitive PvP because they still think that their PvE DPS/Healing/etc will get nerfed into the ground if anything happens in PvP.
Dude you are so WRONG, my Scrapper did get nerfed and my PVE damage burst in PVE got cut in half. Now claim you are still right. Go ahead and lie more please.

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Thiussat
01.30.2012 , 05:08 PM | #207
I think people are misquoting Blizzard devs. IIRC, they never said arenas were a mistake per se, but said they wish they would have planned for arenas from the very start instead of tacking it on later.

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Forsbacka
01.30.2012 , 05:08 PM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by Vordy View Post
Arena didnt really have much skills on WoW either, it was about gear and what classes you played, we real pvpers want world pvp.
World PvP aint very popular and therefor it aint main thing in any MMO since DAOC, There aint a single popular MMO with healthy world PvP. What comes to no skills and no gear, all decent and up from that teams had same gear so it wasnt any issue, even bad teams had same gear at 2/3 of a season apart minor upgrade on weapon.

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Forsbacka
01.30.2012 , 05:13 PM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by Drakaris View Post

That's the problem with Arena based PvP - they always promote the FotM classes, no skill involved, it's only the best possible combo facerolling the others.

D.
Was pretty much same in high end rated Battlegrounds, teams were either spellcleve, melee train or shadowcleave. Warrior was only viable tank class, 1-2 paladins, rogue was must, so was mage in every team. There wasnt much of variation on team compositions at higher ratings.Will be just as same when rated WZs come, although this game has less classes/specs but FOTM will be name of the game in high rated WZ also.

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Narcolepsy
01.30.2012 , 05:15 PM | #210
To be fair to WoW they did have one really good Arena. Don't remember the name but that Arena in Stranglethorn total FFA.