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How Colmui is better than champ/BM

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How Colmui is better than champ/BM

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KingEoj
01.30.2012 , 02:28 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by eternalfinality View Post
if the op was as smart as he claims to be, he'd have posted the math breaking down the stats showing how the pve gear is better.

But he didn't, because he's a troll.
because i can do so much math with the awesome combat log and dps meters we have.
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Cor_Blimey
01.30.2012 , 02:29 PM | #62
The expertise on a Champ/BM item is worth, what, 1% damage reduction?

At my current health levels (full Columi and/or Champion) the extra 50 or so endurance is worth more than the 1% damage reduction.

This is what's stupid. I'm using 2 pieces of Champ gear in PvE for the set piece bonus, and I'm using Columi in PvP for the extra endurance and cunning.

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KingEoj
01.30.2012 , 02:30 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Izola View Post
Well im a BM scoundrel that does hit people for 8k. But i was referring to making an alt on his server and beating him in a duel with minimal PvP gear.
still here? your bad bro, move on.
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Diet-Hutt
01.30.2012 , 02:30 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by HysteriaX View Post
I am always willing to take a free 5k dmg medal in any warzone please come to my server.
^ This.

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Countryfiedjedi
01.30.2012 , 02:33 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Izola View Post
I cant wait for rated's and these PvE'ers roll in to a WZ with their UBER L337 STATS thinking their all fly.......
Did you just say "thinking their all fly"? Now I want to go listen to my old late 80's rap! BRING ME MY CASSETTE PLAYER AND MY PARACHUTE PANTS!!!
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gotem
01.30.2012 , 02:36 PM | #66
If you think about it the OP is probably right.

If you have a good tank who can effectively swap guard to the target getting focus then you don't need expertise as badly as most people are claiming in this thread.

Guard swapping isn't that hard to do any decent WoW arena warrior who migrates to this game can do it... I have a friend who does it all the time.

Now that you take the damage reduction away you are simply comparing ~10% damage from expertise verse the extra stats of tier3 PvE gear. I don't know and not going to do the math but I wouldn't be surprised if the PvE sets give more than 10% damage.

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AidenPryde
01.30.2012 , 02:39 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by KingEoj View Post
So are they going to balance this or what?

Right now PvE gear is vastly superior to the PvP gear, kinda makes no sense and it shows in PvP. I dont even want to mention Rakata.


PvP gear buff please, or nerf the PvE crap or make it so you cant PvP with PvE gear on.


And no, atm, Expertise does not help when your in full columi or rakata you stomp no matter what. The HP makes up for the lack of Exp alone.
Yeah and my Smash will crit on you for 4k. You will die to me. Repeatedly.

I bet an Op/Scoundrel pre-nerf would hit you for 7-8k.

There goes all your HP bonus.
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Through strength, I gain power.
Through Power, I gain victory.
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Delavager
01.30.2012 , 02:40 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Fedarsond View Post
ok lets think about this with pretty much a full set you do about 10% more dmg for most people cause not everyone has a full set of champ gear cause bags are awful. so when i take off my gear and switch to pve gear i dont have the 10% more dmg but they still have the 10% less dmg so 10 + 10 is 20% less dmg. And if we use your numbers its what 30% max less dmg delt to somone with 15% expertiese.

btw pve is super easy if you dont have a full set of comli its cause your awful at this game.
Go back to school.

Your math is off. Not how stacked percentages work, you don't add them.

Again you fail.

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Spyde
01.30.2012 , 02:41 PM | #69
Ill take my 10-15% dmg bonus against them, along with taking 10-15% less dmg from them.. While having a 10-15% bonus in healing.

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KingEoj
01.30.2012 , 02:42 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by gotem View Post
If you think about it the OP is probably right.

If you have a good tank who can effectively swap guard to the target getting focus then you don't need expertise as badly as most people are claiming in this thread.

Guard swapping isn't that hard to do any decent WoW arena warrior who migrates to this game can do it... I have a friend who does it all the time.

Now that you take the damage reduction away you are simply comparing ~10% damage from expertise verse the extra stats of tier3 PvE gear. I don't know and not going to do the math but I wouldn't be surprised if the PvE sets give more than 10% damage.
thanks, talk sense to these kids please. they dont get it.
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