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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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Setanian
01.30.2012 , 01:27 PM | #951
Quote: Originally Posted by face_hindu View Post
I'm just saying, it's 3 to 1. You're wrong. Give it up.
Facts? Show me the proof.
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ispanolfw
01.30.2012 , 01:28 PM | #952
Quote: Originally Posted by face_hindu View Post
I'm just saying, it's 3 to 1. You're wrong. Give it up.
Being the majority(which you likely cannot prove statistically) does not make you right. It might be "accepted" as right depending on the community or whatnot, but it doesn't MAKE you right or the minority WRONG.

I posted links many pages back, most chose to ignore them, but one of them certainly touches on this subject.

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Xabana
01.30.2012 , 01:28 PM | #953
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
Any facts to back *any* of that up? No, didn't think so.

Have you counted the fors and against? No? more baseless information.

That stuff may be your *opinion* but that's all it is and sorry to tell you, worthless.
I said "I still think". That's not stating a fact.

You answered your own questions.

Next time, forego a response if it adds nothing to the discussion.

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Grecanis
01.30.2012 , 01:28 PM | #954
Quote: Originally Posted by VanorDM View Post
Neither, but I'm about one post away from adding you to my ignore list, because of this. You clearly feel that you are somehow morally and ethically superior because of your opinion, and I refuse to get into a debate with someone who claims the moral high ground over an opinion.

What I'm doing isn't harming anyone, because I have as much right to the fruit of my labor as does everyone else in the party.

Unless of course you believe that the proper and unselfish act, would be for me to expect everyone else to act only for my benefit. No where have I ever said I expect them to act solely on for my benefit.
I'm sorry you feel that way ...these are the values I was taught and have had to relearn thru my 50 years of life. I'm not trying to force them on you and I certainly don't feel superior in any way because of them.

I am simply trying to persuade you and others to please stop and think a little longer before you roll need. Just as you are trying to persuade me that it's not necessary.

This is a debate and you brought up my usage of certain terms. I'm just arguing my point.
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ferroz
01.30.2012 , 01:28 PM | #955
Quote: Originally Posted by Xabana View Post
You are wordsmithing. The point of this thread is to argue that a common decency should exist in loot rolls that is based upon an actual heirarchy of demand and worth based on comonsense and decency. Nothing more.
And folks have been pointing out that calling it "common decency" is a misnomer at best. It's greed and selfishness, covered by a mask of indignant self righteousness, and implied martyrdom.

"You can't roll for that because my wants are more important than your wants." is not decency by any stretch of the imagination.

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Setanian
01.30.2012 , 01:28 PM | #956
Quote: Originally Posted by Xabana View Post
You are wordsmithing. The point of this thread is to argue that a common decency should exist in loot rolls that is based upon an actual heirarchy of demand and worth created out of comonsense and decency. Nothing more.
A common decency does exist.. If you need you roll need, if you don't roll greed, if neither apply roll pass.

Which part are you not understanding?
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face_hindu
01.30.2012 , 01:30 PM | #957
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
Facts? Show me the proof.

TOTAL SAMPLE: 504

FOR COURTESY LOOTING: 387
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AGAINST COURTESY LOOTING: 117
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Sampled from the two largest current threads on the issue.

Anybody have a problem with the data, or if I misrepresented your position, please let me know.
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Setanian
01.30.2012 , 01:31 PM | #958
Quote: Originally Posted by Xabana View Post
I said "I still think". That's not stating a fact.

You answered your own questions.

Next time, forego a response if it adds nothing to the discussion.
Thank you for agreeing with my synopsis of your *facts* or opinion.
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ispanolfw
01.30.2012 , 01:31 PM | #959
Quote: Originally Posted by Xabana View Post
You are wordsmithing. The point of this thread is to argue that a common decency should exist in loot rolls that is based upon an actual heirarchy of demand and worth created out of comonsense and decency. Nothing more.
Or in other words you, or the OP, or whomever, wants a system that prioritizes what the majority may feel is more important during loot rolls. In this case stats for your particular class. But that's the thing, that minority that DOESN'T agree on what you choose as priority also has the same stake, they pay the same as you for the privilege to play.

So again, unless BioWare decides to side with you and change the system, the players really have no right to force something out of the bounds of the current system on those who disagree. Same applies the other way, we cannot force you to roll with the system as is. But your view differs from the system, you want it changed, you be vocal before the run.

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Xabana
01.30.2012 , 01:32 PM | #960
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
A common decency does exist.. If you need you roll need, if you don't roll greed, if neither apply roll pass.

Which part are you not understanding?
Which part of your arguments am I not understanding? All of them. None is rooted in commonsense or decency. Welcome to the ignore list.