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Autoface: The reason why ranged is imbalanced

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Autoface: The reason why ranged is imbalanced

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Slie
01.30.2012 , 01:21 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Vegathegreat View Post
dude think outside of the box, no one cares about a 1v1 situation, im gonna win that with the tools presented.....but it takes away an element to pvp, u cant force people to have to actually aim at you since it does it for them.....you cant juke a caster while you kill his healer with your interupts, you are limited, its dumb down so someone can spam a button with one hand and doesnt have to aim with the other.....

if you dont see this you in a bubble
bad players play bad. L2P. Your exploit from wow doesn't work here. Get over it. It is an exploit, not a skill. You don't want skill, you want easy wins, from an exploit. In your feeble mind everyone has to play like you want them too. LOL this is a different game don't try to turn it into the broken game you left to come here.

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sunsu
01.30.2012 , 01:22 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Kelticfury View Post
What I think is funny is how you get these genius players who don't seem to get it and strafe side to side like they are having a seizure. I bet when they suddenly find themselves in the respawn they are like wth!?!?!? I was juking and jiving like a CHAMP!
Dammit you made me lol at work. You have to understand these wow pvprs have been brain washed into mouse turning, no one could possibly win if they cant mouse turn.

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yukirshiro
01.30.2012 , 01:24 PM | #73
Also, we need autoface because otherwise spamming tracer missile and lightning isn't a win strategy.

And we couldn't have that.

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Stealthsultan
01.30.2012 , 01:25 PM | #74
Here is a challenge: If you support autoface post a video of your pvp skills with a ranged class. If you would like to see mine: watch the second video I linked on my OP (first post, first page)

From my experience in terms of searching for players to form a solid pvp guild; all the good ranged I know are for the removal of autoface from casted skills. It stays for channeled spells because channeled skills are a different mechanic than casted skills (lower dps, higher time-on-target demand). They reason they want it removed: it creates better mechanics in pvp and give the player more to do (and showcases skill on both sides).

I have a serious problem with people calling mele classes who run through you bad: if they interrupt your cast are they bad? What if they are trying to backstab you? Whats "good" about you pirouetting in place npc like while casting? A player pissing you off does not make them bad, and in a lot of cases means they are doing it right.

"You have to understand these wow pvprs have been brain washed into mouse turning, no one could possibly win if they cant mouse turn."

Do you play a shooter with only the keyboard to aim? Mouse turning is the use of the mouse and keyboard to turn and allows a much higher range of motion than keyboard alone. I never give people crap about it: but I do encourage them to learn it.
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Vegathegreat
01.30.2012 , 01:25 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Slie View Post
bad players play bad. L2P. Your exploit from wow doesn't work here. Get over it. It is an exploit, not a skill. You don't want skill, you want easy wins, from an exploit. In your feeble mind everyone has to play like you want them too. LOL this is a different game don't try to turn it into the broken game you left to come here.
is this guy foreal?... its not skill to kill someone while juking 1-2 other people? to actually have the composureto execute a kill on one target while still forcing others to make mistakes on there cast? i mean you think its more skill to press 1 and then watch if you get interupted or not in which case you just press 2 after and watch you toon turn and follow?

i mean be realistic.....stop trying to defend autofacing, its terrible, latency does need to be worked on but autofacing should never exist

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Atamosk
01.30.2012 , 01:26 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Stealthsultan View Post
You realize that no mmo (including the vaunted DAOC) is perfect and that swtor was in large part inspired by wow. What pvp credentials should I post? Anyone who watches me play can see that I know what I am talking about.

If you never had an issue, you should have no problem with it removed, end of story. Its a major problem for shadows/assassins due to their need to back stab not being achievable.
yeah that seems a bit unfair to not be able to get behind them..

classes that have to be behind to do damage need to be fixed. it just becomes very challenging in a game like this. then again ive had no problem being killed by an shadow/assasin
running is never a bad thing

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Bovinity
01.30.2012 , 01:27 PM | #77
Quote:
You don't want skill, you want easy wins, from an exploit. In your feeble mind everyone has to play like you want them too. LOL this is a different game don't try to turn it into the broken game you left to come here.
So moving is an exploit, but a mechanic that moves your character for you so you don't even have to bother facing them is cool? Yeah, that makes sense.

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Atamosk
01.30.2012 , 01:28 PM | #78
melee has autoface does it not?
running is never a bad thing

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Kelticfury
01.30.2012 , 01:28 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Stealthsultan View Post
I have a serious problem with people calling mele classes who run through you bad: if they interrupt your cast are they bad? What if they are trying to backstab you? Whats "good" about you pirouetting in place npc like while casting? A player pissing you off does not make them bad, and in a lot of cases means they are doing it right.
There is no use trying to explain that when you can just be ran through to negate your ability that takes time to fire, by a twonk with instant acting abilities, it isn't skill. It isn't positioning for a backstab, its just some dimwit taking advantage of a stupid mechanic. In any case this has nothing to do with autofacing. I bet half the people in here wouldn't have a word to say if it just fired off the ability without turning your character.

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Scoobings
01.30.2012 , 01:31 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Atamosk View Post
melee has autoface does it not?
Without being able to really test it, I'm about 90% sure that it doesn't have auto face. But even if it does, it really shouldn't either.
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