Autoface: The reason why ranged is imbalanced

No use real movement not stupid run in circles use los and physical obstacles not circle jerking for the win. Skill interrupting real kiting not running in circles.

I do have to agree with this. Great post OP.

Range in this game is EZ Mode enough. They get to exploit terrain, have constant action in Ilum (and tag almost every other player for guaranteed credit on kills) and can factor in Positioning into their strategy much more effectively than melee, who more or less are restricted to where an enemy chooses to be.

They don't also need this.

if you were skilled you wouldn't depend on exploiting latency to beat your opponent. l2p

Truth. /end thread

Ranged isn't OP because of autoface, although it does take a basic disparity and make it even worse.

Ranged will always have fundamental advantages over melee in PVP as long as they continue to balance to a PVE environment where ranged and melee are set to do the same damage.

Range is a much bigger advantage in PVP than PVE. As long as that's true and as long as PVE is where dps is balanced melee are always going to suck in PVP unless they're balanced around being able to have close to 100% uptime.

Woww achieved this by giving melee classes lots of snares + roots + charges.

SWTOR does this, but it also gives ranged tons of snares + roots + stuns + knockbacks, thus defeating the advantage.

dude think outside of the box, no one cares about a 1v1 situation, im gonna win that with the tools presented.....but it takes away an element to pvp, u cant force people to have to actually aim at you since it does it for them.....you cant juke a caster while you kill his healer with your interupts, you are limited, its dumb down so someone can spam a button with one hand and doesnt have to aim with the other.....

if you dont see this you in a bubble

Yeah, and people whine and cry about "pillar humping" and such too. Everyone just wants their easy mode gameplay for everything and no one else should be able to play any better because that'd be "lame".

Wasn't until I rolled a Scoundrel that I realized how easy Range classes have it in this game's WZs. Just off the top of my head, the major advantages my Scoundrel has over my Shadow:

1. Opposing Snares are inconsequential. My Scoundrel can DPS any target whenever he wishes. No snare can slow down his DPS output.

2. Presently, WZs are so wide open my Scoundrel can just setup shop wherever he likes and have an unabated angle to unload DPS.

3. Animations are lightning fast. The longest animation I currently have to wait for is Back Blast and that is a positional skill. Everything else is faceroll instant easy, including my Scoundrel's internal damage DoT.

4. My Scoundrel's CC is as good as my Shadow's CC in melee range (I'm guessing this actually improves for my Scoundrel down the road). So there is no defensive disadvantage to being a Ranged class in the CC department.

Keep in mind that I'm not trying to get anyone nerfed or anything. These are just observations I've made playing the two different classes so far. However, it's obvious to me now that PvP combat in this game is really made for Ranged classes. It's just so easy. My Shadow didn't hit the 200K+ DPS mark in a WZ until he was in the 40s. My Scoundrel accomplished this feat at level 13.

Rather than seeing classes get nerfed, I'd like to see melee classes get some buffs. Right now, there is a significantly greater challenge playing a PvP melee class in this game. Range classes have every edge as far as I can tell, aside from some marginal mitigation advantages for melee tanks.

I wish swtor was more like DAOC when it came to binding faces

we really need /face /stick commands we can bind to keyboard

NERF SCOUNDREL!

Oh wait.... HA!