Just dinged 50. Gear... um... wow.

I got to 38 pretty fast and have been just doing the class quests and pvp'ing ever since. Once the 50 bracket came out I knew it would be a blood bath for new 50's.

So I'm 49 now and valor rank 40 and about to ding 50. Sad times ahead. I might possibly just reroll like others have said, not sure yet. I do like the carrot stick where I have to gear up and continue to earn better gear, etc but I don't want to get stomped for months trying to make that happen.

We'll just have to wait and see how bad it is once I hit 50. Right now I've bought the best gear available for level 49's so I'm hoping that lessens my gear discrepancy somewhat. Also I've got 1 bag purchased already and have 1000/1000 so with 6 bags to begin with, I hope I can bridge that gap quickly.

I'm praying to the gods of RNG atm.

that explains alot about your issues, yu lose 9/10 b/c u afk. You expect to lose so you make yourself lose. that isnt hurting anyone but yourself. and thats the type of mentality that has pvp the way it is now.

what fresh 50s ACTUALLY have no chance at.

Being top dps, being top heals, being best killer in a bg. 18 medals, steamrolling everyone.
Lol people are so grief stricken by the fact they cant be this dominating force right at 50 they look for complaints, excuses and reasons that its everyone fault but their lack of time being put into trying to get geared.

Yea sure you have your "exploiters" and no lifes who steamrolled their way to whatever, but, that will always be there there will always be fresh 50s, there will always be more geared people. but to expect them to place gear in the game that makes ou comparable to that gear in the form of welfare epics is absolutely ridiculous. what would be the point or value in the actual pvp stuff if that were the case.

Youre a fresh 50, be support, go helped that overgeared nerd with no life kill that other over geared nerd with no life. but above all else, dont become part of the problem,dont detriment others b/c youre angry that you CANT be the top dmg or have most kills your first 50 fight. and in time youll be that overgeared nerd too that some new lvl 50 will be complaining about.

and also be smart, PREPARE yourself. on my jug who is 43 i have 1 champion gear bag, and 1k -1k on commendations. when i ding 50, i have 6 bags that could help me tremendously befor i even do my lvl 50 bgs.

Pvp gearing may seem more redundant and grindy than pve b.c thats the nature of pvp, you do one thing, kill for objectives. there nothing else you can make of it, you cant make gearing up more pleasurable without turning it into a welfare fest. youre not killing a massive boss that requires strat, kill and a team effort. youre playing a made that is full of selfish ego maniacs who all just want to kill.

Point number 5 is actually one people should really take note of. If you've been smart and also done dailies at 50 to get epic mods, it won't take that many pieces of PvP gear to become fairly competitive. After that your strength grows pretty slowly.

The answer is super easy: Enter warzone = everyone gets a 10% expertise buff.

This makes pvp overall much more fun, and helps mitigate the gear grind. I'm in full champ gear, and its not fun for me either. I hate this outdated system, some forward thinking company will eventually figure it out that we don't really want this system anymore.

I had a ball in my last 2/3 levels pre 50. i was also smart enough to have 6 champ bags "in the bank". Although the way the game is laid out REALLY discourages casual players from doing that as most of them don't know how. Or by the time they find out it is too late. Why not just make it so you can have as many champ bags as you can physically carry before 50? Or just 6 even? 1 bag max is just stupid.

Anyway, 2 weeks later I have around 400 expertise. The random element of the champ bags is stupid and a guild mate who has had far more bags than I have has about 200 expertise. You can start to compete again in WZs at around 200-300 expertise unless you are a sorc or sage where you will find you don't really scale well at all.

Having said that, when you start doing daily and weekly you will find you get a fair amount of bags if you are doing Ilum as well. It is quite easy to have 17 or so champ bags in your first week. If you are supremely lucky you could be in full champ week one. More likely you will have 4 - 6 actual items from 17 bags and at least 2 - 4 of them will probably be the same item.

I opened 3 champ bags yesterday and all three had an item. Sadly it was the same item all three times. And I already had that item, enough so that all my pets have that item already too. Whats the point? Just allow me to sell dupes to centurion vendor for the tokens instead at least?

Because I re-rolled (as original server had 3 hour queues) I still have a level 27 char on that server. When I want to have FUN I log in and do pre50 warzones. Its as much fun as you can get in this game. I don't craft, I don't quest other than to get an item I want and I just HAVE FUN.

When I want to be miserable and feel like everyone else has reached the top tier of gear A MONTH in to the game I play my main. It isn't a lot of fun, as a result I cancelled.

1: almost impossible for people who play faction unbalanced servers. also wins don't always count thanks to bugg. next
2: after the price hike on the gear, it takes 20+ bag to buy one damn centurion piece. assuming each bags gives 3 commendations.
3:yes cause pre-mades don't happen right?? lol yes casuse some1 with 10K more health then me is not full geared.
4:this i somewhat agree on.
5:expertise does you give you that small edge you need though.
next please

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Not just bang pow, you are dead, but you can bang away for all your life and not feel like you are doing much more than tickling the other guys who have some gear. It is pretty much night and day in that bracket, but I don't think that would really be that bad if Ilum and the 50 WZ queue weren't such nightmares, could prolly just tough it out otherwise, but as is, its not very much fun.

Yes, that is precisely the model that BW has in mind. They are clearly in favor of paying your dues.

Your math on the number of coms is off by about a factor of 10 here. 10 Merc coms = 30 wz coms. Its not a 30:1 ratio. It takes about 4800 wz coms to have for bag and 1000/1000. 1 bag = 200 wz + 200 merc => 200wz + (30wz*200merc/10wz). Same metric for the 1000/1000 => 1000wz + (30wz*1000merc/10wz) = 1000wz & 1000merc. Dont blow this pre-50 grind way out of proportion.

As far as getting nothing from the bags, I agree that that would be frustrating.