No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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Ariadna

01.30.2012 , 03:54 AM \| #601
Quote: Originally Posted by crica No one owns any loot that drops until it is won by a dice roll. If it was owned, it would have been in their bags already. well good luck, grouping. i hope you find, likeminded people like you. make sure you let them know ahead of time, that you intend to roll need on everything.

ispanolfw

01.30.2012 , 03:54 AM \| #602
Quote: Originally Posted by Ariadna oh believe me, ignore works miracles. specially in a game where grouping becomes an odyssey. the badmouthing part is the outcome you get as the end result of your behavior. and word of mouth spreads quite fast. so if you earned a reputation as a ninja looter. you will probably end up finding groups very hard. And you still don't get it. You cannot expect unwritten rules to automatically apply. There is no way to know the other person knows or even agrees or follows them without speaking up prior. So if you DON'T say anything about loot rules prior, and just run with it. And then proceed to badmouth say a Marauder who needs on an IA chest piece because they love the look of it and prioritize that over stats, how can you not see yourself as the one with poor behavior? You said nothing about restricting drops based on stats, yet still berate someone for it.

ispanolfw

01.30.2012 , 03:55 AM \| #603
Quote: Originally Posted by Ariadna well good luck, grouping. i hope you find, likeminded people like you. make sure you let them know ahead of time, that you intend to roll need on everything. Understanding what theft and ownership are and are not, is not synonymous with "rolling need on everything"

crica

01.30.2012 , 03:57 AM \| #604
Quote: Originally Posted by Ariadna well good luck, grouping. i hope you find, likeminded people like you. make sure you let them know ahead of time, that you intend to roll need on everything. There is nothing to "let them know". Everyone knows before they ever join a group that they have to roll the dice to see if they win the loot. If they want everyone in the group to PASS on loot they want, THEY need to ask the group if they mind doing so.

Ariadna

01.30.2012 , 03:58 AM \| #605
Quote: Originally Posted by ispanolfw And you still don't get it. You cannot expect unwritten rules to automatically apply. There is no way to know the other person knows or even agrees or follows them without speaking up prior. So if you DON'T say anything about loot rules prior, and just run with it. And then proceed to badmouth say a Marauder who needs on an IA chest piece because they love the look of it and prioritize that over stats, how can you not see yourself as the one with poor behavior? You said nothing about restricting drops based on stats, yet still berate someone for it. ofcourse there is. this is why anyone with a bit of common sense, would explain the rules before going into the FP. you can also avoid PUG, you could keep grouping only with people you know, or you could avoid grouping alltogether.

crica

01.30.2012 , 04:01 AM \| #606
Quote: Originally Posted by Ariadna anyone with a bit of common sense, would explain the rules I am sure you mean they would "ASK" the group members if they would mind PASSING loot they want to them if it HAPPENS to drop. As you can see by this thread, no, alot of ppl don't do that - they just EXPECT other ppl to pass loot to them and if they don't, well then they will get mad and throw a fit or refuse to play with them again.

Ariadna

01.30.2012 , 04:01 AM \| #607
Quote: Originally Posted by ispanolfw Understanding what theft and ownership are and are not, is not synonymous with "rolling need on everything" sometimes people dont say anything, because maybe they think, they already know this? it is common sense afterall.

ispanolfw

01.30.2012 , 04:02 AM \| #608
Quote: Originally Posted by Ariadna ofcourse there is. this is why anyone with a bit of common sense, would explain the rules before going into the FP. you can also avoid PUG, you could keep grouping only with people you know, or you could avoid grouping alltogether. And I already stated countless times, if you have views on loot different from what the game provides, say so prior to the run. Because the system already works in a fashion you dislike, and you are the one wanting a change, you are the most likely candidate to speak up.

crica

01.30.2012 , 04:03 AM \| #609
Quote: Originally Posted by Ariadna sometimes people dont say anything, because maybe they think, they already know this? Already know what? That you want me to pass loot to you? Nope, not unless you ask me. No, it is not common sense to expect others to be able to read your mind. Speak up - ask ppl to pass you loot if that is what you want, and then they WILL know.

ispanolfw

01.30.2012 , 04:05 AM \| #610
Quote: Originally Posted by Ariadna sometimes people dont say anything, because maybe they think, they already know this? it is common sense afterall. Or maybe they think the system affords everyone in the group the same opportunity to roll how they choose and that people who disagree will say something. I understand both sides wanting the other side to speak up. But you want the change in the given allowances to restrict to per class stats only or whatever. You want the change. You speak up. Get it?

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