No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

just because is a game, does not mean, we all should act and behave like mega ultra Jerks. if that happens, that would be the end of the whole mmo genre, because i assure you, most people would stick to playing single player games, and rather save their 15 euros monthly.

we make our own laws in a MMO. wich are mostly mirrored by common sense, RL norms, values. there are things wich are accepted, tolerated by the majority and others , that aren't.

if a person has a low education, very low values. it is very likely he or she will reflect that behavior in a mmo.

And yet, i'm not advocating people act like "jerks" as you put it. I'm only saying that if how you view loot "rules" is different than what the game provides, speak up. Don't go expecting everyone to automatically feel exactly the same way and then start kicking and badmouthing them later when they roll for something they felt was need worthy.

It's a bit hard to compare like this, but let me give it a shot. Say in real life you have 4 people go and do some group contest together. Say there is a reward for completing this contest, but it's only one thing. And this one thing will be given to one of the people at random, is it ok for you to go and say that you should get it because you feel you can use it more? What if someone else in the group thinks they can use it more, but for a different reason than yours?

Now the problem with this comparison is that they can freely give it to one of the other members if they want. They can also agree ahead of time what to do with the item if they win... wait you can do that in game too. But would you really be silent and then when you win, demand it should go to you since you feel you would get more use out of it?

And I know that comparison isn't all that great. But do you really feel it's ok to tell someone else that what they feel is worthy of a need is wrong? It's really ok for you to tell someone they are playing wrong? When they are paying for the same privilege to play as you are? Because that's what many in here are saying.

It is not just on the internet as an old Chef i can easily say that secretaries are the worst costumers you can get

Basicly it really shines trough that once a year when they get treated to a dinner they suddenly find out how to release the valve for all the crap they got under a year all in one go :P
Using the people that works there and serves theire food as theire main focus

I basicly think alot of people turns into degenerates when they feel they can be that disregarding where and when just using it as a release for things they are miscontent about .

But then aswell you have the pure selfish individual aswell that just can't play nice with other people in that mix

then group with your friends only, and people who already know the way you are, and you can yell at them from dawn to dusk all you want.

you are free to be a greedy roll need for all kind of person. but be willing to accept the consequences of your acts.

If this was true then ppl would have the common sense to ask what the loot rules are going to be when they join a group and then staying in the group (if the loot rules are what they want) or leaving the group and finding/making another group(if the loot rules are not what they want) instead of crossing their fingers and hoping everyone wants to use the same loot rules they want to use and then get upset AFTER the loot drops.

In my book, grabbing items that don't belong to you (i.e. poor manners) is in accordance with the psychological profile of the majority of the players who choose to play Empire side (=wannabe "baddies").
With that in mind, you could say that a sith marauder or a bounty hunter needing other people's loot is actually a touch of RP (=taking all I can with no respect to others) in the game...

YOU are the one who told me to yell at everyone... "treat everyone the way I want to be treated"... I want to be yelled at by everyone so I should yell at everyone!!

Yes, I am free to decide for myself what items I need or not, and so are you - we both have the option to roll Need if we both decide we need the item - the dice will decide who has to run the instance again.

Why do you think YOU should be the one to decide who has to run the instance again and the not the dice?

oh believe me, ignore works miracles. specially in a game where grouping becomes an odyssey.

the badmouthing part is the outcome you get as the end result of your behavior. and word of mouth spreads quite fast. so if you earned a reputation as a ninja looter. you will probably end up finding groups very hard.

No one owns any loot that drops until it is won by a dice roll - ppl are ELIGIBLE to WIN the loot, but they do not OWN the loot until they WIN the dice roll.

If the loot was owned by someone, the game would have placed the loot drops directly in their bags instead of waiting for a dice roll to determine who owns the loot.

No item belongs to me until it hits my inventory. Same applies to you and everyone else.