@The Elitists - Streamline gameplay and features =/= "WoW fanboy children"

Which words in my post don't share the same meaning as they should?

Again to Pioneer means to forge ahead into new territory ... Steve Jobs took existing technology and made something new with it. He didnt just improve on it but made something new out of old things....

And so did WoW, how did WoW NOT make new things out of the old mainstream MMO framework that EQ had created?

TLDR = i pvped and got a bag and nothing was in it, i must make a post!

I suggest you re-read your post and actually consider editing it to make your point clear, as is it reads like you both think its too easy and too hard to gear in ToR, and that anyone who disagree's with it being too easy and too hard are biodrones! thus it makes no sense, and everyone will disagree because they cant make sense of your post.

Apple's success, IMO, comes from take something that already exists, makes it pretty and then convinces you that you have to have it and building brand loyalty that is ferocious.

Which is exactly what I said, so we agree on something.

The success of a customer based industry is NOT based on ability, or functionality, or innovation. It's based on brand loyalty and the ability to propagate a powerful reputation regardless of whether you can support it with your hardware or not. Because when it comes down to it, there are so many people that are loyal to you that it doesn't matter if your products are clunky because they adapt to it and expect anything less than said clunkyness to be a problem.

It's almost entirely based on appearances and the ability to streamline said appearance.

Let me rip a guy I know off when I used this to support my case:

"I'm not going to debate whether or not The Old republic is, or is not a" WoW Clone".

I will say, it does closely follow the formula made popular by WoW targeting the casual/theme park market – What the means to each individual is subjective, and not irrelevant to this topic.

On that basis – There are what I consider to be –standardized- features as part of that formula (As seen with RIFT, and other MMORPGS).

With the core features of such a formula present (Smooth combat system, simplified mechanics, casual progression pace, theme park style linear play).

There are SEVERAL missing features I find very frustrating –
A few things I’ve noticed:

No Guild support, or progression – No Guild Banks, or Guild Quests, nothing that I can see that supports the incentive to join a Guild other than to expedite group creation, or for social aspects, and RP – This is a big letdown – Guild Incentives I think are important to creating a social atmosphere outside the usual gear grinding, and raid nights.

No Ultra-Graphics/HD/AA – The graphics are very sub-par to industry standards, even so for this style of gaming, RIFT which is already over a half year old presents much stronger graphical engines, and capabilities – We are about to be in 2012 – Why am I playing a game with graphical qualities to rival the original Knights of the Old Republic circa~2003?

LFG Support – This one is tricky, while I think that group match makers did kill a large obligation to be civil, and social – I also think that TOR lacks ANY significant form of group support – No I don’t want cross-realm LFG match making, as that produces a higher roll chance for trolls, and ninjas – But something to expedite the process would be more then favorable.

Public Events – Now I’m not end game, and still have not scratched all the game has to offer – but I’ve yet to see much to indicate there are Public Events / Quests - This is a feature I enjoyed in WAR, and loved in RIFT – Why the regression? If a feature proves to be favorable en mass, why omit it?

Poor RP Support – Aside from vanity items, there is no support for a play style that was touted prior to launch as being supported, there is very little interactive environmental objects, and the emotes are lack-luster

–Player Housing – I don’t know why developers keep looking past this.. I think this is one of t he most sought, and neglected feature there is – and no, having the same starship as everyone else does not fulfill this desire.

Did I miss anything? What features do you think are missing?"


This essentially says everything I need it to

"TOR has Regressed the genre...

WoW pioneered it, RIFT Standardized it, then TOR SHOULD HAVE IMPLAMENTED IT."

This was a necessary and informative post.

I'm going to assume you're trolling due to the activity directed toward me on this post.

If you're not. Thank you.

Pretty much sums up everything