Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

I'm very good at simracing (pc simulation racing like iracing or rfactor for example) and what I have learned from there is that people just don't believe that there might be someone better yet alone much better at what they do. In that genre everything is fair and the cars are identical. Only the setup of the car, meaning brake balanace, spring stiffness, dampers etc., and the hardware you use (latter being in very, very minor role unless you are sporting a 40 dollar wheel and pedals) differ. "The faster guy just has a better setup, the faster guy is cheating, the faster guy has better pedals" etc. I have heard all the excuses. It's pretty mind blowing really how far people are going to go before they deny the truth.

That's why arenas are hated. When you are truly good you are within the best 1% or even less. Obviously 90 out 100 are not going to fall for that regime. The problem is that nearly everyone think that for some reason they are good. In simracing there's no way to hide your skill level. In all simplicity, your skill level is the the time you go around the track, the faster you are the better you are AND even then people try to deny the facts. Then take an MMO which in nature can never be 100% balanced and use a rating based system to rank one's skill level. Obviously the 99% people who aren't that good are not going to admit it's because of them. A player well within the best 1% can make pretty much any class work. For the rest who can't, or who plain suck, there's the FOTM excuses etc. etc. Obviously there are people who know their abilities but I say it's the majority who overestimate themselves a lot. It's human nature to think that when you hit your own limit there's just no possible way that someone else could go further.

In short, people don't want to admit that they are bad, no matter how hard facts there are against them. That's why they are never ever going to admit that when it comes to arena. Bad people don't want to do arena because they can't do well there unless they actually practice, but it's easier to deny the truth.

Arena will never be truly balanced, there will always be some classes and setups that have easier time. BUT THAT IS NOT THE REASON WHY YOU ARE STUCK AT 1500 RATING AND SOMEONE ELSE IS NEAR 3000!

Ps. I'm definitely not within the 1%.

Very few people in WoW actually liked or even participated in Arena, this is why the developers at WoW said it was a huge mistake. So much balancing for such a small segment of the population is simply not worth it, not to mention you actually never balance it and the game suffers on every front for it.

It causes the developers to focus on 4v4 and lower pvp class balance, sometimes intruding on the class balance in other areas of the game.

We reap what we sow. I'm more than happy to hurt peoples feelings when they post 'grow up l2p' responses. He didn't make a point, he said "Just grow up and admit you suck". I'm waiting on a response to my actual point though.

if you add arena's right now with how patheticly unblanced and broken pvp is right now it will just be total chaos

Arenas are hated because you'll have some combos that just beat other combos. My powertech, sorc, merc combo is greater than your operative, sniper, sorc combo. Etc.

And really there's so much broken with the game that adding it would just be yet another distraction from fixing the pain points for customers right now.

First off- let's fix up what's there first- they're fixing most of the differences in mirrors, and most of the animations delays in coming patches, so that'll settle most of that imbalance.

They'll still need to give an edge of some sort to the lesser numbered side- xp buffs being the most logical.

Ilum is too empty- they need to make something happen there that makes it worthwhile.


Adding arena, which is just another headache to balance- shouldn't be done til they've fixed what's already out.

As for why people don't like it- it's something done by few people, fewer people actually enjoy it- and it tends to give the best rewards.

Thing is, without the best rewards, nobody will do it. With better rewards, people will do it but hate it all the time. Why release something that won't be used OR will be hated by near everyone?

It destroyed World PvP in WoW and most players are casuals.

Casuals meaning they just want their pvp daily and thats it. Nobody wants competition.

The arguments for grinding gear are ridiculous. You'll have a game like SWG where you get the best equipment in 3 days and burn yourself out in 2 months.

Multiplayer dueling makes no sense. If they want a boxing or mma type of entertainment then it should be a 1v1 set up. 5 on 5 mma makes zero sense. Neither does objective less warfare in a rpg.

If you want to prove you are good at pvp excel at objective based pvp where you have to do more than fight. Arenas are checkers to battlegrounds/Warzones chess.

It is always funny when people act like arenas are a more advanced form of pvp. They are the simplest and most basic pvp possible. Only 1v1 dueling offers less.

Like i said though if they wanted to offer a mini game of dueling in an arena I think it would be fine. The biggest problem in wow was classes were being buffed and nerfed based on multiplayer dueling. That is bad management there.

I just dont see a good way to implement multiplayer dueling as it doesn't make sense on any level. Add to that the focus should be on the more complex and challenging objectives based pvp and I see no reason for it.

Do add a dueling minigame even with rankings and spectators. You can have titles and decrotive rewards but no actual valor or commendation rewards

i still cant agree with that state, cause is just another thing to do in-game, i dont expect arenas on swtor to be high skill capped or to call professional players to swtor , i just want arenas to have something more to do , something i can do only with 2 or 3 friends ,without depend on some randoms afking all the time , or without need to go to chat look for someone to play with, cause i need a group of 8 to do warzones