No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

When someone changes lanes from behind me to pass in front of me without a blinker then sharply slows down to make a right turn, it doesn't cause me to have a car accident. That doesn't mean I don't think they're an ******e. And if there was a forum where I could rage to people about using blinkers and not being ****heads I would probably vent there once in a while .

Anyway, sure you can hit need on every roll. That makes you a bad person. I don't care if it is real gear or fake gear or whatever, it's you exercising your ability to be an ******e because I can't punch you in the face for doing it and that to me makes you a coward and a jackarse.

Then unfortunately for you, they are being used that way. So I apologize if I take your so called "rightness" with a grain of salt.

I think you're missing my point. It matters not, what an individual thinks about or even feels while rolling n/g/d on an item. That's irrelevant. It also doesn't matter whether or not you find it unacceptable. That's subjective. I even find it annoying, but that's not the point. None care about my feelings.

The point is, that an individual can do whatever they please because they want to. It's not my right to judge them from some standpoint of self righteousness. This has nothing to do with real life analogies, it's a video game. Again, the items are not real. No need to get so worked up about a piece of poorly textured digital gear, bro.

Besides, what if one is role playing a Sith? I'd expect a need on every roll, it's not within my right to affect his/her immersion.

Actually, that's exactly what it is. Orange gear is BW's version of an Appearance tab.

Yeah, see having this opinion is what makes you a bad person. I do care about other people's feelings. I treat them in the manner in which I would like to be treated and even when I'm playing a Sith, I don't blame that for my poor anti-social behavior.

I think you're taking this a little too seriously. Either that, or you're having difficulty differentiating between fantasy and reality.

You do realize that Sith and Imperial characters murder, steal, destroy families, etc during the context of the game right? Poor anti-social behavior? Where is that even coming from? How is that relevant to the discussion? Rolling need on a piece of gear makes one anti-social now? Where am I? I'm confused.

How does respecting one's immersion and game play choices, good or bad, make me a bad person exactly?

So what if someone rolls need on everything they will actually use? First of all they won't always win, because rolling need on something doesn't guarantee you get it. Second who are you to say they don't actually need it? I'm not talking about the people who don't even look and just hit need. I'm talking about the ones who will actually use the item in some way.

The purpose of need/greed as it says in the manual (which I quoted a few pages back), is to allow the player to make a decision whether they want a higher chance of winning an item, or they want to allow another player to have a higher chance of winning the item.

One of these is called the "Need" option, the other the "Greed" option. Guess which is which?

It's your position that's speculation, the manual says nothing about what you (the player) need.

Everything else I've said follows logically from that.

Obviously your "best option" is not BW's "best option", since they've implemented a Need/Greed system.

I am utterly shocked at some of the replies I am seeing in this thread. People will say *anything* to prove their point. Morality goes right out the window, as does fear for any actions made in game that could upset other players.

You have to ask yourself, would I need on that item, that is not my class, that *is* that other guy's class, if he was a big giant mean looking guy who could Chuck Norris my ninja looting butt?

No matter what you say, I know that answer would be no. Since this is the webs, you can do whatever you like, and not have to worry about what that guy that you just ninja looted from is going to do to you. Unless of course you run into some crazy mental nut job, who knows how to track your IP address thus linking a home address to that IP address. Now *that* would be SCARY!!!

So...having said that, I find it ludicrous that anyone would even have the gall to argue with the OP. You know damn well what the unwritten looting rules are. You just don't give a damn. People like you need to have a purple name tag so that I know to avoid you in game. If you had such a tag, I promise, you would NEVER get in any groups. You know it too.

Say what you like, keep pointing out game mechanics and saying "If it allows us to do it, then it's ok" crap all you like, but you know damn well you are dead wrong. A gun's game mechanics allows me to pull the trigger anytime I like...but it would be pretty damn wrong if I used it to shoot random people, right? Extreme, I know...same concept.

Get real, stop defending your already weak points and stop discrediting yourselves. The more you people defend ninja looting and rolling on gear not your class, the more you discredit yourself.

Indeed it does - well, not a "bad person" in real life, necessarily, but a jerk who takes advantage of internet anonymity to jerk around.

But the fact that you can identify that they are being a jerk (because their Need roll doesn't match the class they're visibly playing) allows you to share info about them with other people, and ignore them and not team with them. Eventually that particular character won't be able to get a team again.

WAI.