Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

It really isn't though. Just the same way that warzones/bgs/whathaveyou aren't E Sport.

If you make the gains from Arena be equal or less than Warzones (personally... I think less than would be best) then there's nothing that pressures players into playing Arena specifically for the gain.

Thus the balance concerns will stay focused on the primary format of gains.. Warzones... which is where it is already.

Put in an arbitrary Rating or Arena Experience system that awards Titles, Mounts, Pets, and other Non-consequential rewards and people will be fine with it.

Well, I'm not really talking about rewards..I know that people would want to play in arenas for the pure competition. Which is a major part of my point. They want true competition that tests the "skills" of the player, not the benefits of levels, classes, or equipment. The smaller you make the groups, the finer the balance has some be.

Bioware can throw 8 to 16 people together against each other in warzones because the balance doesn't need to be as defined. Numbers can mask inequalities. And still you will have people clamoring for nerfs and changes. This becomes more pronounced with arenas. And though I hate to mention them, Blizzard developers do have experience in this area, and they have said the same thing.

You have to separate the two..to be fair and make it work without damaging the game for those that do not PvP. It's hard enough making Open PvP and PvE exist together...without including a specialized e-sport version of PvP.

You know your FOTM comps will play against other FOTM comps, and a winner will be needed. So yes arena was very competitive.

I've been playing from season 1 in arena and in WoW and I never had such a blast at PVP.

To those who said arena is **** they probly just sucked at it.

There's a reason it became en e-sport. Few games can brag that title.

Want E sport? It's that way /points in the direction of S. Korea lets see how bad *** you really are.

The pvp systems in SWTOR would make arena absolutely horrid.

Please for the love of god don't even try and jam this square pvp into a triangle shaped arena.

there is also a reason why arenas were the biggest joke of an e-sport....

and yes, i believe that arenas are @#$% because they single-handedly ruined wow pvp. not to say that people who play/enjoy arena are @#$%, but the system is.

although, lets be honest here. while every group has bad apples, the arena crowd has a LOT of bad apples ratio wise. you know who i am talking about. people who need arenas to validate their existence.

ex-wow players do not want to see swtor pvp turn into wow pvp because...honestly if we wanted that we would just play wow. the easiest way to prevent the destruction that wow pvp suffered is to not institute arenas.

not saying that is the RIGHT or FAIR choice.

if arenas could be implemented in a way that prevents pvp being balanced around it, doesnt force players to participate like wow did, etc etc then yes i would support arenas. however, maybe its the skeptic in me, but after what i saw happen to wow i dont think that such a plan is possible.

arenas added to the pvp experience for the first...oh 6 months or so when they were introduced. i had a blast. but eventually the arena metagame for pvp slowly started to from and choked the life out of pvp. the change was not sudden, it was a very slow creep. hell i would be hard pressed to point how when exactly arenas became detrimental. probably somewhere in the S3-S5 range (probably depends on what fotm comp made you want to tear your hair out. druid/hunter, druid/war, or dk/pal)

but it came to the point where i would literally rather go to work for an entire day for FREE than play 10 games of arena.....and im DEAD serious about that.

And I for one, enjoyed playing at or close to Glad range at all times strange and wonderful comps because I saw no reason to get annoyed at "Fotm comps" If I beat a druid warrior playing Shadowpriest Warrior, hurray \o/ if I lost to the next one that came along oh well, the time spent was enjoyable, you did not need to be a top tier comp to get high or to enjoy it, and as already stated, nothing wrong with slapping it in, not balancing around it, giving it no special treatment of any sort, gear or otherwise. there is no argument against this. just a decent time waister and fun for people like me who played it for the enjoyment factor, not the gear.

reason i quit swtor. turns out all the whiny pve'ers are the target audience of this game. I dont care about story I want competitive pvp that is fluid.

why should ******* who afk have the same gear chances/gear as skilled players who dedicate themselves to learning strats, comps and becoming better. also, same rewards available via rated BG's that also prove your worth.

bad players are and always have been against arena, because clickers simply can't compete. coming from a gladiator. I never even hesitated to take a new player to a raid if he had a good arena title because i knew he would most likely be more solid then some scumbag who could "farm bg's"

I can't even believe people would question the idea of skill based loot. sigh, bad players want hand outs from an rng system compared to trying hard to attain a goal.

If you haven't noticed there are a lot of wow haters on these forums. The other type played wow and had a season where their preferred spec wasn't at the top. A third would be people using your ratings as the go-to insult on forums if you are low rated with a lot of games played.
The legit complaint is that for a time bgs were rendered meaningless, blizzards biggest mistake was not putting in rated bgs when arena went live.

I liked arena. I don't think swtor is polished enough yet to support that level of competition yet. Maybe in a year, lots of kinks to work out still.