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if you want to invite me to party, ASK ME first.

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if you want to invite me to party, ASK ME first.

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Gunju
01.29.2012 , 05:40 PM | #161
To the Op, I agree with you 100%.

I guess it was how I was raised. To be polite. Seems like common sense to us, but really, it's far from it .

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EternallSlumber
01.29.2012 , 05:41 PM | #162
I read a lot of this thread. I had no idea how many people really believe random ninja invites are ok! This isn't opinion guys, its the way its been for the last decade and a half.


Etiquette develops over time. In MMOs, part of the established etiquette is that it is considered rude to invite without asking. That is a fact in every sense of the word.

The guy on page one that posted about no tell invites while waiting for the same spawn had it 100% right. Thats what MOST mmo vets expect.

OP, I approve of your crusade against the invite ninjas. Good luck! From the look of some of the replies, you are going to need it.

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Joonbeams
01.29.2012 , 05:44 PM | #163
Quote: Originally Posted by Notsensible View Post
That's true, but the way party invites just pop up in the middle of whatever and distract makes it annoying. It starts to become a problem when it happens at a bad time (concentrating on a fight or whatever) or when you decline but the person keeps inviting. After that happens, which I'm assuming most of us have experienced, you just look down on such actions.
But how is whispering and asking first *less* intrusive? The OP's position just doesn't seem valid to me. If the concern is wanting some "foreplay," well sheesh, get over yourself. If the concern is being distracted, seems like a whisper and "hey, watcha doin? Nice weather today huh?" would be way more distracting. But whatever.

Anyway, I (and the others I've seen) usually limit my invites to people at roughly same level trying to do same HEROIC or what not.

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EternallSlumber
01.29.2012 , 05:45 PM | #164
Ninja invite me, you get ignored. Less obtrusive is not the issue. It's more polite to ask first.

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Broom
01.29.2012 , 05:48 PM | #165
Quote: Originally Posted by Kabjat View Post
I have taken the liberty to circumvent the obvious retorts to my post with the following hypothetical questions:

"If you don't wanna be invited to groups, you should just go play a single-player game."

No. I don't mind being invited to groups. What I do mind is someone inviting me to party without showing me the courtesy of ASKING me first if I wish to party with them.

"Turn on auto-decline group invites if you are such an anti-social person. Gawd, it's an MMO, people group to do stuff."

I love to group with people in order to meet a common objective. In fact, I am usually quite enthusiastic to party up with other players...provided they are willing to behave in a social manner themselves by being POLITE. It's RUDE to ninja-invite. Is it so hard to WHISPER someone and ask them if they even WANT to do the same thing you are doing?

And incidentally, I HAVE toggled auto-decline after today...didn't even know it was an option till my husband showed me. It cheeses me off that I have to and that people are so socially stunted that they can't be bothered to ASK first.

I'm all for efficiency. But when someone just spams me with his party invite without any regard to what I may be doing, it just makes me NOT want to party with him on principle alone. Like, even if I do want to do the same thing he wants to do, Saving Face, Personal Challenge, whatever....if he sends an invite without asking first, it's a forgone conclusion that I will NOT group with that person.
I hear you!

I find it incredibly rude how some people assume that just because they want to do something I automatically must want to do this too. I am not your NPC companion, I am VERY MUCH not your personal property, and I probably have other plans. Kindly ASK before spamming me with group invites just because YOU want to go kill a world boss.

And yes, I do actually ignore those morons.
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Henigan
01.29.2012 , 05:49 PM | #166
I'm not sure I follow what the OP is trying to say, is she playing next to mind readers whom know what quests other have? If she's refering to "Anyone for X?" "OP: Yes me please." "Op recieves a invite and rages about not getting a whisper as a responce to her sentence written in the general chat agreeing to the invite to start with" then I'm clueless.

Is the OP refering to getting invites whilst being in the area of a group quest or what? Can't tell for that poorly written post.
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EternallSlumber
01.29.2012 , 05:51 PM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Henigan View Post
I'm not sure I follow what the OP is trying to say, is she playing next to mind readers whom know what quests other have? If she's refering to "Anyone for X?" "OP: Yes me please." "Op recieves a invite and rages about not getting a whisper as a responce to her sentence written in the general chat agreeing to the invite to start with" then I'm clueless.

Is the OP refering to getting invites whilst being in the area of a group quest or what? Can't tell for that poorly written post.
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Rillex
01.29.2012 , 05:51 PM | #168
Quote: Originally Posted by Kabjat View Post
I have taken the liberty to circumvent the obvious retorts to my post with the following hypothetical questions:

"If you don't wanna be invited to groups, you should just go play a single-player game."

No. I don't mind being invited to groups. What I do mind is someone inviting me to party without showing me the courtesy of ASKING me first if I wish to party with them.

"Turn on auto-decline group invites if you are such an anti-social person. Gawd, it's an MMO, people group to do stuff."

I love to group with people in order to meet a common objective. In fact, I am usually quite enthusiastic to party up with other players...provided they are willing to behave in a social manner themselves by being POLITE. It's RUDE to ninja-invite. Is it so hard to WHISPER someone and ask them if they even WANT to do the same thing you are doing?

And incidentally, I HAVE toggled auto-decline after today...didn't even know it was an option till my husband showed me. It cheeses me off that I have to and that people are so socially stunted that they can't be bothered to ASK first.

I'm all for efficiency. But when someone just spams me with his party invite without any regard to what I may be doing, it just makes me NOT want to party with him on principle alone. Like, even if I do want to do the same thing he wants to do, Saving Face, Personal Challenge, whatever....if he sends an invite without asking first, it's a forgone conclusion that I will NOT group with that person.
You talk like you are superior over other people. You think hitting the invite button is RUDE? It's like saying you got invited to a party in real life but you're mad that they didn't ask you first.

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Xanzul
01.29.2012 , 05:52 PM | #169
Quote: Originally Posted by uteboy View Post
For me, depends on the situation.

If we're all standing around waiting on a spawn that we have to kill, just invite me already. I've had several groups that have formed, killed the mob and disbanded without so much as a word.

If I'm out questing in the world and you want me to join your FP, or you need a hand with something and your randomly working your way down the who list, then ask me first.

I'm another player with this mentality.
It's only acceptable under certain circumstances.

I've also had this happen in WZs. A couple of good players I was constantly seeing in WZs invited me to queue up with them.
Since I had seen them in something like five games in a row I knew why I was getting invited. No tell needed.

But, if you're just looking for me to help you with a quest that I'm not even on or running a FP that I'm not even looking to run? Please, ask me first.

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Broom
01.29.2012 , 05:52 PM | #170
Quote: Originally Posted by Joonbeams View Post
But how is whispering and asking first *less* intrusive? The OP's position just doesn't seem valid to me. If the concern is wanting some "foreplay," well sheesh, get over yourself. If the concern is being distracted, seems like a whisper and "hey, watcha doin? Nice weather today huh?" would be way more distracting. But whatever.

Anyway, I (and the others I've seen) usually limit my invites to people at roughly same level trying to do same HEROIC or what not.
It is rude because you ASSUME that someone else will want to join you and that they don't have other plans. Even if they're the same level, there's a good chance they've already DONE that heroic, or that they're about to log out, or simply have other plans in game. By not asking you tell them 'your plans do not count, mine do'. I find it completely unacceptable.

And no, sending a tell and asking is not even CLOSE to being in the same category of interruption. By asking, you treat the other like a person in stead of like an NPC.
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