Massive amounts of trading on illum

You wont be able to do anything for this garbage community that does that. From here on out whatever BioWare tries, they will continue to Co-op to get the easy reward since there is no punishment for death. Only a severe death penalty will change these pve carebears.

lol

You're actually saying that someone is a baddie for not being able to get kills while facing a zerg?

ok, I really want to hear your strat for this.

You look outside your base and see a zerg of 20 Imps standing there waiting for someone to come out. You need to get your Ilum daily done. Walk me through your strat to beat the zerg by not being bad.

P.S. You, of course, realize that the only response you'll have for this is to list BS requirements (example: going there with an Ops group at 2am, or being a stealther that can sneak around) that the Imps do not also have to adhere to in order to be successful.
Any response that includes a requirement like that is automatically void, as it does not address the issue of balance and is acceptable to you only because you are not the one being bound to it.

You are bad if you continually put yourself in a situation to be zerged. Things I do:

1. Use the speeders to get out of areas that are being zerged.

2. Hit the off nodes and flip them. Go to the side and see how many are coming to flip it back. Sometimes it's something that can be managed.

3. Play on the fringes of the assault areas and pick off stragglers

4. Fake going to an assault point with the zonewide messaging system, then circle around and pick off stragglers.

5. Not everyone on Empire and Republic likes to run with the zerg. Find those people and have some fun fights.

6. Don't quit if you get zerged a few times. This is a PvP game. Toughen up, sissy.


Of course, it's just easier to cry and say it's too hard and go cheat. Let's face it. All of you people who defend this crap aren't doing it to "teach Bioware a lesson" you are doing it to get to 60 as quickly as possible for gear. You'd be cheating this way even if Ilum was of a more solid design. You suck. End of story.

The biggest flaw in the PvP system is:

GEAR FOR VALOR

Players aren't going to Ilum because they care about those 5 points there. Their primary objective is acquiring the best PvP gear. That makes the gear the objective in this "objective oriented open world PvP".

Let the crafters craft the gear (so they can be useful in end game). Most of the players hate to gring in PvP for gear. Gear should not be the objective. It is a corruption of the whole idea, but created by the devs themselves.

Territory control, base defense - those are much better goals for PvP ... and not just gear.

BioWare!!! Don't respond with a new warzone. Respond to our concerns about the lack of real open world PvP. Thank you!

Correct. It seems that those who PvP just for the sake of PvP are a dying breed. And, unfortunately, it is the developers themselve who are killing us off by not using the proper incentives and rewards.

Most people are just going to flat out suck and cheat to get what they want if they can. Most people suck in an IRL kind of way.

So broke game mechanic is better than broke game mechanic that is better than broke game mechanic.

You can't justify any of it. The whole thing just reeks of fail.

Thanks for proving my point. Everything on that list are things that are not a requirement for the Imp zerg to have to do as well. You are ok with them solely because YOU are not required to do the same.

It reminds me of the guy that headed "Keep Tahoo Blue". He refused to allow people to do things like clear underbrush because of the potential for runoff into Lake Tahoe. He stated that the #1 priority was Lake Tahoe. His decision knowingly caused houses to be lost to fires due to unchecked underbrush.

Then a funny thing happened. One day HIS house burned down in a fire fueled by underbrush (I laughed a little at the karmic justice of that). The next day he was in the paper saying that maybe the human factor did have to be taken into account, and the lake couldn't be the only factor considered.

People are like that now. Selfish to the extreme and willing to make other people accept things that they would not accept themselves.

That doesn't make you a bad person. Just no different than most.

There is no one with the stones to shut down Ilum for 2-3 months. It is broken, it is very bad designed from the very start.
I saw the killtrading on our server for the first time today. Made my daily and got the hell out of there. Yeah sure, nice for those who make huge amounts of Valor AGAIN. But it leaves a bitter aftertaste even looking at it.

I think they should remove rewards, quests and valor from illum and either convert it into a large scale Warzone.

Open world pvp always has been and always will be horribly flawed. Get rid of objective based open world pvp and create a Warzone to handle larger balanced conflicts.

Huge kill trading on my server today for about an hour, until a GM showed up and broke it up ...

For about 45 minutes, then everyone started doing it again.

As someone who HATES exploiters, I'm not at all upset people are doing this and I'm amazed a GM would stop them. Win or lose Ilum is zero fun. You either can't do it because central is controlled and outnumbers you 4 to 1, or you control central and no one attacks you while you ride around on a speeder for 2 hours looting boxes.

BW really expected people to give up half of the available battle master gear simply because they made the system horrible?

Until Ilum is fun it will be exploited. Until Ilum is fun it SHOULD be exploited.