THIS is SO TRUE !

Ofcourse SWTOR has them at launch, unlike WoW they didn't have to learn by doing, they can clearly see what has worked on the MMO scene and what hasn't, the fact that WoW, a 7 year old game can compete with a well funded 2011 game is just stupid.

I can understand bugs/glitches as being written off as the game being new, but nothing else.

Very well done video. I agree with everything he said.

At this point SWTOR has more features than vanilla after 1 year. But less features than first expansion.

The balance problems in battlegrounds and world PVP is far worse than it was in WoW ever. The tarren mill zergs that came with the title farming was much better than Ilum is today.

But the breaking point for many was that the game engine WoW is on was working much better than Hero engine does. And it was working much better in the WoW beta than what we have today in SWTOR. Smooth and fluid gameplay without extra hidden cooldown and delay is really annoying.

So I would say this game is on par with what WoW was 1 year after the release and the engine on par with Anarchy Online.

People should stop ************ about SWTOR being new.
The standards have changes, you can't launch half-assed products anymore. I'm not going to feed my money to BioWare so they can add more content. Hell, fixing game breaking bugs would be nice, I heard that's what beta is for.
Rift launched 1 year ago and it was much more polished at release.

Combat log

Warzone Scoreboard

Responsive abilities/engine

No ability delay/stutter/GCD bugs.

Developers who would take down servers, apply hotfixes, and roll back when PvP warzone exploits were discovered.

Sure it does!

thats a spot on video. I also unsubbed 1 day ago and will keep tuned to possible significant pvp changes. Tho, i remain skeptical about it happening.

Oh yeah, forgot to say that it's a spot on video except for the "wow is too great part" . I'm talking about his TOR criticism.

I see you never played a: Hunter, Warlock or Paladin (in the Vanilla PVP you claim to love). Trust me, this game's balance p roblems are NOTHING compared to Vanilaa WoW's PvP problems.. and i wouldn't say WoW has made a ton of headway, either. Some, yes, but even now the WoW PvP balance problems are no worse or better than this games.

This is so flagrantly false it almost threatens to make the blood come out of my eyes from reading it. At the time it launched, WoW on high settings with draw distance all the way up would reduce top-end gaming rigs to sub 1fps.

During beta, before the last two rounds of optimizations, you didnt even need to be on high settings. WoW runs great now because the core engine is 9 years old with 8 years of tuning and optimization... and extremely low poly. (Which is not to say it looks bad - it looks like Warcraft, and to me is a fine example of art direction > polycount; doesn't change the fact that that is why it runs so good, though).

Tarren Mill/Southshore was a sub 1fps slideshow an all but the beefiest rigs. When AV launched, even 40v40 would bring framerates down to sub-30fps on the beefiest machines.. if you added in NPCs (Reivers/Wolf Riders/Lok)... right down to Tarren Mill levels of performance.

to this day the game is STILL heavily CPU bound and piggy in large-player areas. Flying into Org on a (Westmere Hexacore i7 @ 3.06 Ghz, Radeon 5870, 12 GB of FB-DDR3) beefy rig still produced a sub-1fps slideshow as the GPU starves because the CPU cant supply it with information on 400 players fast enough.

I still dont get the mentality to post that you dont like a product in the products forum. To get feedback from others who dont like the game?

I mean, discussing problems is just fine but just stating that you dont have fun and dont like it isnt really something you need to share, isnt it?

You wouldnt post a thread in the Mercedes forum stating that you dont like their cars. Why would anyone do that?

Mercedes... Lol

gimme BMW.

Nice that you mentioned it. Hunters were fine but had a very high skill cap. You needed to time things right if you wanted to win against other classes in one on one.
My main was a warlock and when we got terror effect (not fear) on death coil we pretty much dominated the PVP scene. Before that we were under powered.

Did you play vanilla at all?