Dungeon Finder Needed Badly

If you don't think there is name calling in this, that is unfortunate. In any event the admins certainly recognize it so better step more lightly.

You can't block a player from access. The only thing you can do is prevent them from getting into your guild and with as little people raiding at 50 that's not really an issue. Even if they are somehow a serious raider and you've managed to block them the major guilds, all they have to do is re-roll and your slander is gone.

As a heads up, I've recieved warnings as well for underserving remarks, be warned Big Brother is out in full force. Especially in this thread, it's one of the biggest, if not the biggest threads on the forums.

Point out to me there where I call anybody a name.

Friendly warning, anything that is considering condescending can get you in trouble.

You can't block them access to the game, no. You can, however, not group with them, not bring them into your guild and avoid them. When somebody starts gaining that reputation as being somebody to stay away from, they either A) change their ways or B) have to find other ways to play. They do not continue to force their evil shenanigans on others though.

I've noticed a few people acting like ***** in fleet, I like to run little tests here and there and decided I'd randomly write a few names down and /who them to see what they were up too. I've found them in FP's some of the time, so the the policing thing isn't working with this many people.

This whole community/repercussions thing is based on the idea that you are some how going to force someone into radical change by shunning them which just isn't going to happen. On a fundamental level people do not change outside of some huge life altering event or brain trauma. This is why tools built to simply avoid them work much better than tools and methods to get people to 'fall in line.'

This kind of small community self policing only works in SMALL COMMUNITIES. FYI several thousand or more isn't a small community. You are trying to equate servers to small quaint, 100-200 people towns when its more like different boroughs of New York city.

Anecdotal, All I see on my server is LFG spam and the randome Charlee Sheen reference.

Without server forms to look into communities and share in a real fassion no telling how good a community could form.

And to be fair in WoW even with x-relm LFD i could get a plesent converstaion on just about anything in general chat.

The community that you want is not going to happen in a rail based games like this one, The two best communities I was ever in were UO and AC, both were sanbox and no instancing. Games like this players are hidden away in thier private little copy of the game taking down large robots and oversized Jedi. In UO guils fough for resources in open world, in AC all dungeon were open to anyone -- it was not uncommon to hit an dungeon and fin another adventurer in there and team up.

I think wanting to force "community" is a fools errand that will fail unless there is a way to communicate in a real manner with ones server -- say a server forum OR something like PvE or PvP ranking boards.

IMHO both a DF (same or cross server) and server forums are not implemted for the same reason -- They ran out of time and both cost manpower BW does not want to spend. I say that because if the truely think a LFD kill the community, they would need to do anything to help communties form -- which they have not.

anything is better than the current 'spam general for well over an hour and still not find a group' nonsense. this is regardless of class or role. i read the first few pages here and what is up with the false dichotomy? you can have both a lfg tool(cross-server, even) AND choose to find groups, in your current manner. one has nothing to do with the other. i just want to run the content and anything that saves me the hours of finding ANY group would be superb. playing the actual game trumps community, imo. i'd rather get the small percentage of jerks, like i do in wow, and get to play than wait because some self-aggrandizing people think it will affect them. or, get rid of warzone queues.