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if you want to invite me to party, ASK ME first.

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DarthTyranid
01.29.2012 , 02:51 PM | #111
I generally accept the blind invite and then just watch as they run around doing stuff. When they do finally ask why I'm not helping I tell them I am waiting for them to tell me what they wanted to do in the first place. Can usually get half a quest done without doing any work.

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cyberxeit
01.29.2012 , 02:53 PM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by Kabjat View Post
Well, I am of the opinion that rudeness is what sends the SWTOR community in decline. It's really not hard to show a bit of courtesy.

If you had read my post you would see that I clearly stated that I LOVE to group with people. I really do...
Socializing are the most important thing in every MMO games. Some people are good and friendly, others - really annoying one. You have powerful "ignore" spell to avoid their.
Well, I re-read your first post but did not believe you. I played about more dozen mmorpg, and mainly cases when person hated other peoples, it's only one way has to solution - the really reason in its person, not the others people.
I played swtor from beta and always need to find people to party, and calling out for half-hour or even hour sometimes. So-called "ninja-inviting" was about half-dozen times - and always it was a missclicking or misunderstood by similar quest-naming. I had use ignore people only one time for annoying reapitable ninja-looting from one player, who ask no one on the questions and continue.
The key for the good multyplayer's gameplay are simple - be friendly, never lazy to ask another time other people (swtor text log full of useless thrash), help others, never be silent, and ever hope the any other person are doing same.
I've never understand that topics. You have all that you needed tools in this game to avoid from person you wan't played with, but you typed so many posts, for what?

ps. I see the greater part of people in the SWtOR prefer solo-questing and it's no good for game and community and the future to both of it. I see the some people even blame the other players who want to grouped with others in mmorpg or asked that he/she done it solo - it's so ridiculous and strange - I had better to finish my post and seek normal friendly cooperative players in the game. Excuse me, but I think that this topic are totally useless.

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Kabjat
01.29.2012 , 02:53 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by jazzllanna View Post
I guess I have never experienced this - you mean someone just does the who screen and invites you randomly? Or do you have the looking for group up and get an invite? Are they in a different area and they invite you for no apparent reason? Then yes that would be weird and annoying but I don't see how this could be a common thing.


I will click the purple icon by someone's name if we are in the same area and its obvious that we are going for the same goals. I don't see why I need to say- hey you going to kill that guy up there? I have never had anyone refuse my invites nor has anyone complained.
I have it happen pretty frequently. Just today I have had to toggle decline-group invites because it was becoming annoying. I think it's just people in the zone looking to find a group really really fast and spamming general chat for LFM isn't netting them results fast enough. I think in some cases people are impatient and figure if they simply invite someone they can convince them to help them with whatever they need help with.

That was the case for me this morning. Guy was spamming general for a quest I had already completed. I was finishing up some crafting and selling junk when I get the invite. Even when I ask him what he needs (I know what he needs) he just says, "Help"

I'm sorry...I need a bit more than that to be motivated to go out of my way for a stranger. Now, if he'd been up front and asked me plainly, I likely would have agreed without hesitation. I love doing that sort of thing, especially if I get to meet nice cool players in the process. But why would I want to spend time playing with someone who won't even talk?
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Lazzer
01.29.2012 , 02:54 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Cormey View Post
I must say with the attitude those who don't want to whisper at all have in this thread i'm quite happy to continue declining their cold invites. They're not really the sort of people i want to play with anyway.
I've been in groups that have silently invited me, run an entire heroic without a word (without even waiting for people to loot corpses for credits or regain power) and then disbanded without a word.

The moment I realise I am in such a group I'll mention the problem and then leave, people hammer on that MMO stands for multi-player and grouping builds community but in fact it's communication that builds community not running heroics and flashpoints with silent drones.

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Kabjat
01.29.2012 , 02:55 PM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTyranid View Post
I generally accept the blind invite and then just watch as they run around doing stuff. When they do finally ask why I'm not helping I tell them I am waiting for them to tell me what they wanted to do in the first place. Can usually get half a quest done without doing any work.
*snort* this is good....and hopefully gets your point across lol
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Silvaro
01.29.2012 , 02:58 PM | #116
@Kabjat

I can't tell you how many times I have since this in general chat:

person: I need help.

me and others: With what?

person: quest

me and others: what quest?

etc, etc
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mrcaptainpants
01.29.2012 , 03:01 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Alexthree View Post
I always thought the invite was asking...


Think about it in real life terms. Could you imagine? "If you want to invite me to a party, ASK ME first." What the hell do you think the word "invite" means, people?
To use your party analogy, imagine if it were commonplace to receive party invitations in the mail that said nothing more than:

Party.
My house.
Right now.

Um...what kind of party is it? Is it a birthday party? Is it a costume party? Is it a Tupperware party? How long will this party last? Do I need to bring something?

That's what a wordless invite is like.

Quote: Originally Posted by Alexthree View Post
Calling people who want to form groups unsociable? This thread is pretty weird.
I guess I don't understand how not speaking to someone is being social. I feel that greeting someone and asking if they'd like to join you is being social.

Quote: Originally Posted by Alexthree View Post
Try accepting and then asking what's up.
Again, I'm confused as to why its too much bother to say a few words to the person you'd like to invite, but then expect them to initiate the conversation after accepting the invitation. Its a stance of "I don't really want to talk to you, but I'm hoping you'll help me with my needs." Its basically treating the other player like they are an NPC in a single player RPG who has been placed there specifically to help you.

Honestly, I think its just a different kind of philosophy. I'm certainly not picking on you, Alexthree. I don't think your position is "wrong". For people who like to play MMOs efficiently and quickly, leveling fast and reaching endgame, your way makes perfect sense. Why waste time?

But there are others who play MMOs who enjoy meeting people and talking with them, and making friends along the way. These are the "let's stop and smell the flowers" kind of people, who are in no hurry to get somewhere. Its about the experience of living in the virtual world. Both philosophies are fine, but they are like oil and water to each other.

I'm definitely of the old-school "smell the flowers" group. I dislike it when people invite me without so much as a greeting, because I find it socially abrupt and a bit jarring, but I do understand that they don't mean any offense. I usually just decline the invitation because I know that if they're in too much of a hurry to talk to me I probably won't enjoy grouping with them anymore than they would with me.

Meh. <lip begins to tremble> Can't we all just get along! <sniff!>

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Kabjat
01.29.2012 , 03:03 PM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by cyberxeit View Post
Socializing are the most important thing in every MMO games. Some people are good and friendly, others - really annoying one. You have powerful "ignore" spell to avoid their.
Well, I re-read your first post but did not believe you. I played about more dozen mmorpg, and mainly cases when person hated other peoples, it's only one way has to solution - the really reason in its person, not the others people.
I played swtor from beta and always need to find people to party, and calling out for half-hour or even hour sometimes. So-called "ninja-inviting" was about half-dozen times - and always it was a missclicking or misunderstood by similar quest-naming. I had use ignore people only one time for annoying reapitable ninja-looting from one player, who ask no one on the questions and continue.
The key for the good multyplayer's gameplay are simple - be friendly, never lazy to ask another time other people (swtor text log full of useless thrash), help others, never be silent, and ever hope the any other person are doing same.
I've never understand that topics. You have all that you needed tools in this game to avoid from person you wan't played with, but you typed so many posts, for what?

ps. I see the greater part of people in the SWtOR prefer solo-questing and it's no good for game and community and the future to both of it. I see the some people even blame the other players who want to grouped with others in mmorpg or asked that he/she done it solo - it's so ridiculous and strange - I had better to finish my post and seek normal friendly cooperative players in the game. Excuse me, but I think that this topic are totally useless.

You've missed the point I was trying to make, but I will not discount your opinion nor say that what you have said isn't valuable. Some of what you say IS true. But what prompted my post was not a dislike of others or grouping. In fact, my sentiment is quite the opposite. Part of my problem is that people who claim they wish the game was more social do not take responsibility for fostering a more social environment. If you read the majority of the posts in this thread you will see many people see ninja-inviting rude. Not always is it bad, depends on situation....but in the case that I have outlined, it shows a lack of courtesy.

I cannot dialogue with someone who has already made up their mind without all the facts. You have decided that this thread is useless, and that is your right to do so. Perhaps this topic would make more sense to you if you looked at it from a point of view other than your own. And I really and truly do mean NO disrespect by saying that.
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SwiperNoSwiping
01.29.2012 , 03:03 PM | #119
If someone just randomly invites you and you haven't posted or said you are looking for anything I understand declining those. If I invite you after you have said you are looking for that flashpoint and you decline, I assume you don't want to go anymore and I find someone else. It's you're decision if you auto-decline and that's you're right, but expect to miss out on a lot of opportunities.

I rarely if ever get psted before being invited, and you know what I don't care. I understand people are different and I don't expect them to morph they're perception of the world and how people should act towards each other to fit mine. It's you're right to not group up with them so don't and move on, don't come on here and expect to change the way other people behave.
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Kabjat
01.29.2012 , 03:07 PM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by mrcaptainpants View Post
To use your party analogy, imagine if it were commonplace to receive party invitations in the mail that said nothing more than:

Party.
My house.
Right now.

Um...what kind of party is it? Is it a birthday party? Is it a costume party? Is it a Tupperware party? How long will this party last? Do I need to bring something?

That's what a wordless invite is like.



I guess I don't understand how not speaking to someone is being social. I feel that greeting someone and asking if they'd like to join you is being social.



Again, I'm confused as to why its too much bother to say a few words to the person you'd like to invite, but then expect them to initiate the conversation after accepting the invitation. Its a stance of "I don't really want to talk to you, but I'm hoping you'll help me with my needs." Its basically treating the other player like they are an NPC in a single player RPG who has been placed there specifically to help you.

Honestly, I think its just a different kind of philosophy. I'm certainly not picking on you, Alexthree. I don't think your position is "wrong". For people who like to play MMOs efficiently and quickly, leveling fast and reaching endgame, your way makes perfect sense. Why waste time?

But there are others who play MMOs who enjoy meeting people and talking with them, and making friends along the way. These are the "let's stop and smell the flowers" kind of people, who are in no hurry to get somewhere. Its about the experience of living in the virtual world. Both philosophies are fine, but they are like oil and water to each other.

I'm definitely of the old-school "smell the flowers" group. I dislike it when people invite me without so much as a greeting, because I find it socially abrupt and a bit jarring, but I do understand that they don't mean any offense. I usually just decline the invitation because I know that if they're in too much of a hurry to talk to me I probably won't enjoy grouping with them anymore than they would with me.

Meh. <lip begins to tremble> Can't we all just get along! <sniff!>

couldn't have said it better myself. I like smellin the flowers xD and I would probably irritate others who move at a much quicker pace than me.
Quote: Originally Posted by Thaltom View Post
Are you playing TOR on an Atari Potato?