Dungeon Finder Needed Badly

done
any space left for that on my list

and by "any left" i mean NOTHING, in game i need players to play with, not "more invested relationship" is this so hard to grasp? understand?

i'll tell you why it so hard to you
your list "of the people you know" is empty
blank
did not exist, that's why

EDIT: Didn't mean to go on a tirade down below lol. We can agree to disagree on the guild issue it's fine but we need to agree on auto porting. There needs to be auto-porting in whatever system gets implemented.

1) It saves time

2) If the group loses a member, without an auto port it runs the dangerous chance of disbanding. I'm seeing this all the time now and it's an issue

Really good discussion going on here,Gavin_Darkl, thanks for joining us. I thought I'd chime in on the whole "guild" discussion as our talks appear to be drifting that way. Yes, guilds are a resource pool that you can draw from to accomplish almost anything in an MMORPG. In a tight spot at off peak hours and desperately need a tank a guild can be a great solution.

Lets be honest here, gaming demographics have changed and people who play the most hours a week or on a schedule benefit from a guild while others don't. I log in for a few hours here or there and like to do some stuff, i'm increasingly becoming the majority of the playerbase in MMORPG's. I highly doubt players in this playtime cohort are reaping the benefits of guilds. I've had to leave my guild already because whenever I log in I get an officer asking me about my leveling and my schedule when I hit 50. I don't plan on ever having a set schedule to play a video game every again and will probably never raid because of it, I'm ok with that.

I also can't be only one who had non-guild hidden alts from back in the day when I played more serious. You log in to have fun and you get X amount of tells asking for run throughs and favours that take up hours of your time. I love the social aspects of guilds but I don't like being coerced into running people through stuff (which is happening with low level content), I don't expect people to be a charity case on me and I expect it vice versa.

Guilds don't solve the core problem, if people are available to group with online then nothing can be done except an X-LFD server queue. Once you factor in guild drama, loot drama, raid or die mentalities, guild poaching and endlessly regearing new members, mandatory schedules that last months and my personal favourite having your Main Tank not show up and having to call off the night .... makes me think guilds are an archaic function towards fun.

I am thinking I may have been a bit harsh on guilds in the aforementioned post so allow me to clarify a couple things. I want guilds to exist in this game and server a purpose, I just don't like the notion of be left in the dark because I can't find a guild that suits my interests for non-raiding content.

What about X-LFD for leveling content and regular/heroic dungeons but add an additional tier that is too difficult to pug or make it server side only?

No. If you allow X-Server you again add in people not taking responsibility for their actions. for example a PST player going on an EST server and complaining at 8pm his time the server is off Peak hours. This is true however it was his own fault and own cause.

Another logical argument is for the people that are causing major problems on their server now only have to wait til lets say 11pm their server time. Now its Cross server and guess what the precautions that we put into place to keep this people from being problematic they are freed again. If it was server only they may still be sitting in queue all night because 75% of their server ignored them for being a problem. The 25% is rarely ever in Queue.

Sorry Cross server is a non starter for me. It should never be Cross server. Server's shutting down are likely coming because enough people are asking for them and population is moving off them already. The business augment for keeping them up barely exists and is only due to the "I WANT MY NAME" more then any Logical argument like if we shut down 25% of the servers the other 75% will be queuing again.

Sorry Nitewolfe but the Minute its Cross server the minute Guilds become Obsolete. Look at WoW you dont need a guild at all anymore in WoW, you can Raid, you can run Instances, you can run Battlegrounds all with out ever playing the game the way it was meant to be played. Sorry Non Starter again, and this will cause people that have come so far to tell you to stick it up your *** because you are not willing to compromise. If you were to suggest 1 Large server for the entire game like EVE that would be something NEW and would be a valid Argument.

Navarh,

I can say the same opposite. All LFD crowd want to turn a MMO into a Single Player game where you just pay a month fee and never acutely play with other people.

So Take your Pick Navarh. You could either come off that pedestal that makes you think you are better and smarter than anyone else and compromise or you can just go play a single player game. Like KOTOR. You will never need to worry about getting a group there.


Guilds Matter in MMOS not in Single Player games. SWTOR is an MMO not a Single player game.

This is LOGIC.

Some more LOGIC.

Then you are playing the WRONG genre of game. MMOs are met for you to have "VESTED RELATIONSHIPS." Multiplayer games like Diablo, Never Winter Nights, DO NOT. Single Player games DO NOT. You are playing the wrong type of game if you are not looking to socially interact with people and develop relationships. Mutliplayer games were you can play with other people IF you want or SOLO IF you want. Or a Fully Single Player game will be for you. NOT AN MMO

I hate to break this to you but server reputation doesn't hold much salt anymore. Look at the forums, people are complaining about jerks in game and people stealing loot. The solution to this just group with your friends, why not apply the same logic to X-LFD to avoid these problem people?

You can't enforce reputation on servers this big when there is no significant time penatly in re-rolling if you did something really extreme. Look at the amount of players tackling raids, it's a drop in the bucket in the new MMORPG markets, what are you doing to do to stop players from being a jerk? Taddle on them in trade or make a post, either way it's going to be ignored.