Both sides of the AC respec debate have legitimate points. So what's the answer?

You aren't interested in any kind of debate, and your initial premise disagrees with the title of the thread.


Advanced Class is class. It's fully fine to say, you can never change this, it is irrevocable, just like when you click create mage in wow, you can never decide that you would rather him be a rogue, or a warlock. The amount of time you spend NOT in an advanced class is trivial compared to your leveling experience.


So yes, it is fully and 100% fine to deny every possibility of an AC respec to every single person who plays this game, at any time, ever. Completely reasonable.



That being said, I'd be fine if it existed, with up to and including a no-restriction mode where you could just do it whenever. I really don't care. But to pretend that saying "no changing class" is heresy.... man, get over it. You can't change AC.

You're obviously against the idea of AC respec. Would you might enlightening me as to what concerns lead to you take that position?

I'm not sure how legit "consequences" is as a reason not to have AC respecs.

I doubt anyone ever quit an MMO because "dangit, I made a poor decision and didn't get punished for it!" and if they did I'm sure the devs had quite the laugh at that feedback from the cancellation.

Multi-specs only help the game. There are two kinds of people who don't like them:

1. People who can only find a group when they are playing a highly sought-after role, and they don't want it to suddenly become easier to fill that role. There's a reason why for a long time in MMO's, people who roled tanks and healers were far more likely to be primadonas than other players.

2. People who have some wierd, masochistic desire for "consequences" in a game.

How about this as a consequence: You have to learn to be viable in more than one role if you want to be a complete player in an MMO?

How about people quitting because they'd made a perfectly reasonable decision and did get punished for it?

That's the situation I'd be in if they allowed AC respecs after saying very clearly in game that it was not possible to change AC. The decision to level up both a BH Merc and a BH Powertech is a perfectly reasonable one given the information presented in game, allowing AC respecs would mean I'd suddently completely wasted my time doing it.

same thing was said about skill respecs when MMOs first came out.

and again in WoW during it's first 5 years...

It will come around if Bioware has any sense and starts up micro-transactions like Blizzard did.

In the end, I think BioWare has decided that "replaying the game is a good thing". They probably believe they have put forth good content that can vary and is enjoyable to the players and that players replaying and participating in the story (their strong suit) instead of an underdeveloped endgame is a good situation for them. Most of their decisions appear to be guided by such thinking and I suspect will continue to.

I actually like the game they have crafted but, it does not seem overly supportive of players wanting shortcuts or commonly found convenience/optimization features they are used to from other games.

Nothing concerns me at all, you'll find that no matter how clever or effusive arguments you collate or put forward, pro or anti, you'll meet the same response.

It just won't happen, its really that simple.

The one and only difference in this game vs any other is that you have to spend three odd hours playing the game before you finalize your class choice. Whereas most other games you choose a class and off you go.

In either system though you are locked in. The only way that that model changes is with the psuedo classless systems a la skyrim et al.

So no matter how eloquent you present your for and against you are simply goin to have to accept that as aplayer there are somethings you just will not be able to change.

Even the great 'we'll do everything we can to coddle you delicate snowflakes' dev team at blizzard havent done that het but kf they are reading this then expect it in some patch notes soon!

You're not familiar with the meaning of the word heresy are you? A heresy is to go against the norm or established doctrine. In this case the heresy is to call for the ability to change class. Saying "no changing class" is the opposite of heresy as it is fully in line with the current doctrine.

And thank you for posting your concerns regarding the advanced classes being analogous to other games' main classes.

I could say the same thing about my disappointment in levelling both an Operative and an Assassin, only to discover that they feel like practically the same class in PvP.

You'll live, I'm sure.

there is absolutely no replay value in playing a new character with only a different AC.

Except for 1 AC, every other class shares the same armor type and stats as their opposing AC.