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What SWTOR will be


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Malichus
01.29.2012 , 12:01 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Proto View Post
You fail to realize what bad word of mouth among the veteran MMO community will do to a game and believe me that message is being spread loud and fast. You can cheerlead all you want, hell, I'll even give you a pom-pom set: *(_)* *(_)* It won't help.
You fail to realize that the "veteran MMO community" and those who care about/know where to find their opinions are less than 1% of the number of people who bought SWToR. As always happens in these games, people will decide for themselves and if the predictions of the "veteran MMO community" end up being right, it will be due to coincidence, not a knowledge of what gamers want.

The fact is, this game is no different than any game at launch. Light in content, buggy, and predicted to fail on the forums. While the OP is rather overly optimistic, the Star Wars IP alone will keep this game thriving long enough to gain the same polish every other thriving MMO that started out just as unfinished now has.

The only measure the game will fail by is trying to use WoW as a comparison. WoW is an anomaly. There is no formula for recreating its popularity. In fact, the only likely way any game is going to ever come close to, or surpass it, is to completely ignore it. That would be true innovation.

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Mekrath
01.29.2012 , 12:40 AM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Ebbikenezer View Post
I remember seeing all of these same exact negative comments running rampant right when WoW launched.

Hmmm.

Yeah, see... it's all speculation unless you have a time machine. In which case we would have ceased to exist.
True, I don't know if the game will fail. I do BELIEVE it will fail if they don't change the direction quickly though.

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crazyhorsek
01.29.2012 , 12:48 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Malichus View Post
You fail to realize that the "veteran MMO community" and those who care about/know where to find their opinions are less than 1% of the number of people who bought SWToR. As always happens in these games, people will decide for themselves and if the predictions of the "veteran MMO community" end up being right, it will be due to coincidence, not a knowledge of what gamers want.

The fact is, this game is no different than any game at launch. Light in content, buggy, and predicted to fail on the forums. While the OP is rather overly optimistic, the Star Wars IP alone will keep this game thriving long enough to gain the same polish every other thriving MMO that started out just as unfinished now has.

The only measure the game will fail by is trying to use WoW as a comparison. WoW is an anomaly. There is no formula for recreating its popularity. In fact, the only likely way any game is going to ever come close to, or surpass it, is to completely ignore it. That would be true innovation.
Well... while I'm not a fan of wow, I have to say its no anomaly. It was the perfect game at the perfect timing. I mean... it was like winning the lottery. Remember all those games before (and yes I've played them) and remember how WoW changed EVERYTHING? Not that I like the changes myself... but WoW to MMos is like... the Ford T... it wasnt the first car, not the best, but that is not the point. The point is the Ford T changed EVERYTHING.

To have the impact that wow had, a game should have the right recipe at the right time... well sometime will happen. Its not like theres a "tendency book" on games... like fashion or design - it will be another lucky draw, but... not that I like being pessimist cause I do love this game, but... lets face it, SWTOR didnt pick the right straw.

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Minack
01.29.2012 , 12:50 AM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Minguss View Post
<swg
epic fail
Make me some RIS bro.

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Agasius
01.29.2012 , 12:50 AM | #95
why must it always be "best MMO evah" or "fail trying"

I just think that it will improve and be here for many years as new content sinks in.

With decent amount of players that is (not 11M but decent to be alive enough)
I feel a great disturbance in the horse!

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Daedricshots
01.29.2012 , 12:52 AM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by wrmrstacrdwower View Post
You highly over estimate the Totanic failure that the MMO community has already dubbed this game to be and how unforgiving the MMO community is.

SWTOR will never see the potential it has is realized.
herp der TORTANIC, the new cool kids word of the month. Just stop talking.

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LeonBraun
01.29.2012 , 01:01 AM | #97
Any money that most of the gamers that will be playing SWTOR for years to come haven't even hit 50 yet...

The elitists have a pretty high opinion of themselves... And their opinions.

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Stejo
01.29.2012 , 01:16 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by LeonBraun View Post
Any money that most of the gamers that will be playing SWTOR for years to come haven't even hit 50 yet...

The elitists have a pretty high opinion of themselves... And their opinions.
You actually speak the truth. Both your statements are correct in ways that you don't realize.

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Sarfux
01.29.2012 , 01:16 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by frigidclam View Post
Why should i need to give the game a chance? I paid $60 for it and they want me to pay $15 a month just to give the game a chance? All they did was fail 100% at copying WoW.

The PvP loot system is a joke. Warzones lag and people get horrible Fps not to mention hutball over and over.

PvE is broke as well. Killing bosses just to find out you can't open the chess and just wasted time to get zero loot.

Companions are USELESS at 50. You can't use then in Ilum or Warzones. They also take up space in partys and raid so they are only good for dailys. They is nothing to buy at lvl 50 in this game unless you want the 1.5 mil mount which you should have by the time you hit 50 from questing.

Space missions and all the epic parts for your ship at worthless at 50 as well. I enjoyed the missions while leveling up only to find out at 50 I do not get new ones??

Why is there a legacy system in this game when it does absolutely nothing? Just another feature to prove the game was rushed and released half-azzed.

Leveling a char to 50 is probably the only enjoyable thing to do in this game.

So go ahead and make fun or my grammar or tell me you "Have fun" and I should just quit cause thats all the fanboys ever do. The people who hate on the game also pay for it and have just as much of a right to express their opinion as the people who love the game do. The game has ALOT and bugs and problems saying its fine and you "have fun" just makes its worse.
then get out... simple as that. You actually like staying here and fooling yourself into "thinking" you are having fun "trolling"? If you don't like the game...gt F o. Don't bash the game..or be here anymore. get out. Is it THAT hard for you?
Always be who you are, not what the galaxy wants you to be

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Zangaboing
01.29.2012 , 01:21 AM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Mekrath View Post
Very optimistic about GW2 but I would never buy a Funcom game again. I had the pleasure of being ripped off for the launches of both AO and AoC
What the hell does funcom has to do with GW2? Arenanet is developing it...