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Aweus
Old 01.28.2012 , 10:23 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by LoL-K-Noob View Post
Maybe becuase its cool to shoot lightning?

A class is OP if the majority plays it

The majority plays inquistor

therefor

Sorc/Assassin is OP

Terrible fallacious argument. Not to mention you have no idea what skills they use.
The argument is valid. Perhaps the initial rush of people to roll Sorcs was becouse it is "cool" to spam lightning. Quite possible. But the fact that Sorcs ARE OP is surely only making this trend stronger.

Look at Ops/Scoundrels. At start it was very weakly represented class becouse many people considered it non-iconic. Yet recently there is a larg influx of new Ops/Scoundrels after the news spread out that they are OP in PvP. Incoming nerf may mitigate this trend. So far nothing was done to Sorcs/Sages and I believe it is a mistake.

Nerf their versatility - that is all. Limit usage/strength of some spells only to certain specs and it should help a lot. A lightining sorc? Remove his healing spells entirely. Healer Sorc? Remove his ability to stun from range. Remove the slow component from lightning spam etc. There are plenty of ways to tone them down without making them gimped.

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biowareftw
Old 01.28.2012 , 10:25 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Viscerus View Post
I don't think sages or sorcs are overpowered... I do think the amount of utility they get compared to other classes is wild. They ahve access to almost every kind of tool in teh game.
Hybrid specced? OP as hell. Not hybrid specced? Fine.

How to fix them? Move spammable lightning to 31 point talent in madness/balance tree.

Class is now balanced. No class needs root on knocback, AUTOMATIC aoe mez when shield breaks, lower cooldown on sprint (while already having the best CC in the game from the balance/madness tree), while basically losing no pvp dps because they pick up a double cast time proc on lightning that they don't even need to watch the proc for because it is what they are spamming most of the time.

They would still have a braindead easy rotation, can dps with any class in the game and would still be the second easiest class to excel at in pvp, have a knockback an instant cast soft CC, a instant cast ranged stun and a knockback.

Sorry but no class needs more then that...

Have you taken a look at the 10-49 brackets? It is all mercs/commandos, sage/sorc. It is like that for a reason.

If Bioware/EA doesn't do something about this? The only people left playing this game will be those specs.
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kirorx
Old 01.28.2012 , 10:26 PM | #13
I rolled assassin because it seemed cool.

Alot of polls created well before release indicated that SI would be the most played class at launch

Not many picked it because they thought it would be OP, they picked it fo the double bladed saber and/or the lightning and wicked darkside powers.

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EscVelocity
Old 01.28.2012 , 10:31 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by LoL-K-Noob View Post
Maybe becuase its cool to shoot lightning?

A class is OP if the majority plays it

The majority plays inquistor

therefor

Sorc/Assassin is OP

Terrible fallacious argument. Not to mention you have no idea what skills they use.
yeah they got knock back completely can win the game for them
pull ppl to them
self-heal
sprint away or over fires
insane lightning damage from far away
etc

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astrocanis
Old 01.28.2012 , 10:32 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVarrak View Post
No, it means people are OP. Cause when things are popular they are clearly OP right?

BW, Nerf People Nao!
Too late.

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SweetNausea
Old 01.28.2012 , 10:34 PM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Rocketlove View Post
Here's what I learned from this thread so far:

99% of players who pvp are inquisitors, who are the worst players.

How could anyone argue with such objective arguments?!
It makes you wonder how people keep losing to them, doesn't it?

If 99% of the people you run into are the worst players ever, what does that make you when you lose to them?

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Kelticfury
Old 01.28.2012 , 10:34 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by kirorx View Post
I rolled assassin because it seemed cool.

Alot of polls created well before release indicated that SI would be the most played class at launch

Not many picked it because they thought it would be OP, they picked it fo the double bladed saber and/or the lightning and wicked darkside powers.
Nerf Darth Maul
Nerf the Emperor

That right there is the real reason inquisitors are overpopulated.
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthVarrak View Post
To quote Mace Windu "Im tired of these mofo Sith in this mofo galaxy"
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Aweus
Old 01.28.2012 , 10:37 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Kelticfury View Post
Nerf Darth Maul
Nerf the Emperor

That right there is the real reason inquisitors are overpopulated.
And here I thought Samuel L "mofo" Jackson was the real ****** of Star Wars. Hell, he even bested a Sith Sorc 1v1 and only later died becouse he was zerged by two Sith Lords.

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Kelticfury
Old 01.28.2012 , 10:39 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Aweus View Post
And here I thought Samuel L "mofo" Jackson was the real ****** of Star Wars. Hell, he even bested a Sith Sorc 1v1 and only later died becouse he was zerged by two Sith Lords.
Sam is undeniably ******, Juggernaut? But darth maul has that evil coolness that all those pimply faced kids getting robbed of their lunch money dream of having. As for the emperor...
All I need to say is "Unlimited POWAAAAAAHHHHHHHH"
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To quote Mace Windu "Im tired of these mofo Sith in this mofo galaxy"
Dancing is OP!111 Video evidence!11

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DarthVarrak
Old 01.28.2012 , 10:59 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Aweus View Post
And here I thought Samuel L "mofo" Jackson was the real ****** of Star Wars. Hell, he even bested a Sith Sorc 1v1 and only later died becouse he was zerged by two Sith Lords.
To quote Mace Windu "Im tired of these mofo Sith in this mofo galaxy"
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