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4h. downtime... a SATURDAY???


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Mormack
01.28.2012 , 11:41 AM | #831
Quote: Originally Posted by urbanmonkey View Post
two valid scenarios (imho):

1. Critical game breaking bug that cannot wait until next scheduled maintenance - patch asap and provide a valid explanation. Also don't close the forums like in china! People will still qq but rational people will understand.

2. Non critical bug that can wait until next scheduled maintenance. Problem solved.

I have a feeling that there was some sort of game breaking bug involved that bioware did not want to share, for whatever reason.
this 10000000 effing percent

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shama
01.28.2012 , 11:42 AM | #832
Quote: Originally Posted by Terall View Post
If there is need for an emergency patch, do it right away, no matter who's Primetime it hits. In the past 47 days since Early Access began, every Patch and every emergency Patch has hit EU harder than US.
I have to say I was mildly peeved when I tried to log on this morning, before getting started with various weekend commitments, to find the server was getting patched. The wording of 'early morning' was also a reminder that we're dealing with US time and not EU time, because having servers offline until Midday at the weekend is not early morning. It's also pretty damn near prime-time for those of us with a Monday-Friday job.

The normal weekly maintenance slot I can live with, because it is on a working day (although feel bad for night-workers), but what does annoy me are the players who aren't affected by the choice of downtime saying that everyone else is just whinging.

If they're going to stick with a 'all servers down at once' scheme then personally I'd love to see the time it comes down change with every patch, so that *everyone* gets affected in their prime time at some point. Currently it is always the same group of people losing playtime.
So sometimes the patch would be 7-11pm CST, and then I'm sure we'd see a few more people complaining about what a stupid time it is to patch
Quote: Originally Posted by Bertrand Russell
One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision

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SilverWF
01.28.2012 , 11:42 AM | #833
Quote: Originally Posted by UrbanMonkey View Post
Two valid scenarios (IMHO):

1. Critical game breaking bug that cannot wait until next scheduled maintenance - patch ASAP and provide a valid explanation. Also don't close the forums like in China! People will still QQ but rational people will understand.

2. Non critical bug that can wait until next scheduled maintenance. Problem solved.

I have a feeling that there was some sort of game breaking bug involved that BioWare did not want to share, for whatever reason.
Yes, but THIS
Quote:
Improved service to reduce the number of player disconnections to the character selection screen
it's not ever "non-critical" bug - it's just a LOL!

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Menzoberanza
01.28.2012 , 11:42 AM | #834
Like Bioware gives a f* about this Thread ...

Whatever you say here ... will go down to toilet .. THEY DONT GIVE A F*

ahhh ... they wont close this thread as people need to vent, when they are done ... Admins will go back to thier buissness... which is "WE DONT GIVE A F*"




Critical BUG - "Illium VALOR farming on respawns"... not some F* DC's ...
R.I.P. .

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Mormack
01.28.2012 , 11:43 AM | #835
Quote: Originally Posted by SilverWF View Post
Yes, but THIS

it's not ever "non-critical" bug - it's just a LOL!

and

1) Who are you to say that's not critical\

2) Who are you to say that's all they fixed. Undocumented fixes happen all the time..especially when they deal with exploits.

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Siklilmike
01.28.2012 , 11:43 AM | #836
im gonna caps this just for effect

WERE NOT MOANING AT THE MAINTENANCE OR PATCHING!!!

WERE NOT HAPPY THAT IT ALWAYS CONVENIENTLY FALLS ON EU PEAK TIMES AND US OFF PEAK.

Patch the **** out of the game i couldn't care less..... But patch it as soon as its ready, not when US peak time is over and EU's has just begun.

**** if it had fallen on the last hour of US and interfered with 5 hours of EU so be it. But they wait for the US peak time to pass....

If its an EMERGENCY PATCH it should be applied ASAP. How comes they can wait till US PEAK is OVER. Doesn't say Emergency to me.

I'll say this bit to help Americans understand, they obviously don't understand

Operator: 911 Emergency response

Standard American: OMG I'VE JUST BEEN SHOT....... SEND AN AMBULANCE QUICK

Operator: Sorry sir its rush hour traffic out there and it would potentially cause accidents if we send one now. Its more CONVENIENT to send one in about 2 hours when it best suits our drivers and Traffic conditions

Standard American: BUT ITS AN EMERGENCY FFS!

Operator: Sorry sir Thats not my problem

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Maidel
01.28.2012 , 11:44 AM | #837
Quote: Originally Posted by Merrinset View Post
Ok you are clearly having trouble comprehending the particulars of this so I will try and slow down.

"Take it up with Bioware" in a mature manner. See how adding in the mature thing changes the entire context? Yeah, you left that out in your reply. Imagine that.

I said it was a general you. Which means not you you. If you're trying to say EU people are not in here acting like they're more entitled than we are, then you obviously haven't been reading this thread. Similarly, I was not speaking of *you* unsubbing. I was speaking of the other people in the general you category that are, and still are posting about how they're "so close to cancelling".
Blame the english language - you were replying to me and said 'you' sorry - what else am I supposed to take from that?

Also how you have the temerity to accuse me of a lack of maturity is frankly beyond irony.

People are upset about things. They arent allowed to vent because BW close all the threads, the also close the forums for the entire of down time.

then they come here and get confronted by people like you saying 'stop QQing'.

And you wonder why they get more upset...

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amnie
01.28.2012 , 11:44 AM | #838
so, just curious, I did something more worthwhile than whining all day... did the problem with the latency/back to char selection at least get fixed? :P

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Marmerus
01.28.2012 , 11:44 AM | #839
This is not WoW! Competent game developers ruins the community!
@ Bioware
Stop trolling the EU. Fix the downtimes to the middle of the night and not in the middle of the morning / day.

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Aus_Jedi
01.28.2012 , 11:44 AM | #840
Quote: Originally Posted by Mormack View Post
Then play something else little snowflake....Downtimes are part of new MMOs.

They're trying to help you...how is patching the game to make it better treating you like ****?! I don't understand your logic. Its so backwards and stupid. You are inconvenienced for a short time but in the long term, where it really counts, you're benefited so much more. You are so short sighted its almost funny....You are so entitled it makes me want to throw up.

That being said, I wouldn't mind the servers being down until 8PM here...just means I hop on my xbox and play some GoW3 or maybe play some Witcher 2....I'm an adult who has options and doesn't rant when I don't get my way.
Wow, I have read your replies and they just amaze me. 1st, I am american, but now live overseas and just can't believe how belittling you are to other people. I also get the impression that if the middle of your Saturday was taking down for around 8 hours you wouldn't be very happy.

I can't say if this downtime was poorly planned, but I will say I am disappointed in it. I work all week and was looking forwarded to my evening of play when my boys were away with their mother.

Next, Did any patch actually happen?? When I logged on just now, there was no patch? Does that mean they ran into a big issue and didn't apply the patch? Does that mean we are going to hear about it again the next day and suffer through another weekend loss.
Would love to hear some true response from bioware. I won't be quitting over this, I love the game, but would love to see some caring response from bioware.

Next, I really think it is so poor they lock down the forums during any dowtime.