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4h. downtime... a SATURDAY???


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therealvenus
01.28.2012 , 10:12 AM | #641
I love how most people who say "go read a book", "go wash the car" are trolling around on these forums. Why don't you take a piece of your own advice for once?

The problem isn't that BW are patching, the problem is that BW are patching at the wrong time again for a MAJORITY of it's subscribers. Those of you who are delusional to think the US based players are the majority, you seriously need to get a map of the rest of the world kido's and see that that Europe, Australia and Russia are out there.

If BW rotated their down-time, then there wouldn't be much to complain about would there?

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Deciraye
01.28.2012 , 10:12 AM | #642
Quote: Originally Posted by Kanharn View Post
Clearly new to the MMO world, all the MMO's I have played from day one have had downtime on a weekend to fix important issues.

I really can believe people are crying over this so much.
Believe it.

Was it really that critical that they do it now and not wait till Tuesday? I mean they have a big fat 8 hours maintenance window to do it

Can't they split the maintenance window to effect different time zones more appropriately?

If you're happy, then great but others aren't and BW need to take note.

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Kanharn
01.28.2012 , 10:12 AM | #643
Quote: Originally Posted by Mormack View Post
You don't know that

Like I said, and read carefully

Exploits that haven't been publicly announced, do not normally see the light of a patch note.....

I've seen Item Dupe exploits get fixed in games without ever a mention of them because they weren't widely known...a friend of mine could show you the chat logs of how it was done in WoW and the convo with the Blizzard GM talking about it...but you will never see it fixed in patch notes...

Even if there weren't exploits, the game crashing is gamebreaking to people that its happening to. Quit being selfish.
I agree 100%.
Leader of The Alliance Union, Pre-launch Guild, Bloodworthy EU.

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Part_Time_Hero
01.28.2012 , 10:12 AM | #644
Quote: Originally Posted by Kanharn View Post

What lol, almost all the MMO's I have played from day 1 have had weekend downtime to fix important issues.

Get a grip its an MMO not a cancer care unit..
no they do not unless it is emergancy ... smart mmo COmpanies and management know much better than to plan downtime for an MMO on a weekend during its busiest playdays of the week

just a plain dumb decison and not sure why you feel a need to defend it unless you work for bioware

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Kalantris
01.28.2012 , 10:14 AM | #645
Quote: Originally Posted by Mormack View Post
well since its saturday, I wouldn't expect much of anything..

Believe me I know there are people who want to cheat me out of money but if I find out they do, I have the power to fight back...This shoe company has never given me a reason to doubt them and I am loyal to them because they have always given me a quality product.

You are never gaurenteed the service will be up...Your 15 dollars allows you to play the game when Bioware allows you to. They can bring the servers down when they like for whatever reason they like.

You have no right to say the downtime wasn't necessary. You don't know how necessary it was and only Bioware does. If it fixed exploits, they might not say anything...if it only fixed the disconnect issue, enough people must have been having it to be gamebreaking. You're really whinning over having less than 20 cents of downtime...Okay, Bioware, pay him his 20 cents.
First of all your math is off. Peak times are 6 hours monday-friday and 12 hours saturday-sunday (checked). This means it's not 168 hours/week, it's just 54. Assuming there are 4 weeks a month you get 216 hours. Just mentioning, it's sorta offtopic. It's over 30 cents. Now multiply it by 1 million subs and by 2, because they usually take 10 hours from peak times for the EU players a week due to prolonged maintenances and/or emergency maintenances. 60 cents * 1.000.000 = 600.000 EUR/month or 7.2 mil EUR/year. Here's the real number. Souns more important than the 20 cents you mentioned?

I'm not guaranteed the service will be up, but I'm guaranteed they'll do everything in their power to keep it up. Even if it's not in their licence agreement. It's in the EU regulations they need to adhere to. They can't take my money and then bring the service down without compensation. If they continue to operate like this they will finally get fined by the EU. Just like Microsoft, which did the same mistake.

I know, how necessary that update was. I can see the patchnotes and I can see, what they fixed. Most of these updates were not critical, not even above medium importance. Even if there was one or two critical fixes they should have been implemented immediately, without waiting for the US customers to go to sleep (bear in mind, that the patching was done in normal maintenance hours). Not only this - only those fixes should be implemented. It would take way less time. They could leave the rest of the unrelated updates for the tuesday maintenance. And don't start about how the fixes are connected. They're not. Disconnecting is nowhere near around quest bugs.

Regards,
Kalantris
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vilkrang
01.28.2012 , 10:15 AM | #646
I'm utterly perplexed as to why they can't follow WOW's lead and have different maintenance times for the US/EU. I know they have offices in England so geography isn't an issue.

It really stinks of a amateurishness, updates should be applied in the early hours of the morning when most people are sleeping, this seems to be the case for the US but conversely the EU gets treated appallingly.

And on a Saturday? Unacceptable.

SWTOR is an absolutely fantastic game, I genuinely think it's the best MMO I've played and I am loving it. But Bioware are going to annoy subscribers if they keep this up, and because I'm a fan of the game I really don't want this to happen, the game deserves to be incredibly successful but these situations seem to be happening far too much at present.

Sort it out, Bioware!

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Kanharn
01.28.2012 , 10:15 AM | #647
Quote: Originally Posted by Part_Time_Hero View Post
no they do not unless it is emergancy ... smart mmo COmpanies and management know much better than to plan downtime for an MMO on a weekend during its busiest playdays of the week

just a plain dumb decison and not sure why you feel a need to defend it unless you work for bioware
Yeah I work for Bioware lol. Reading your comments you work for Runescape to understand so little.
Leader of The Alliance Union, Pre-launch Guild, Bloodworthy EU.

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DarthTorne
01.28.2012 , 10:15 AM | #648
Quote: Originally Posted by Kalantris View Post
The maintenance took time in normal hours (which is US off peak time). It's not a coincidence. They already did an emergency patch fixing Ilum and it was done in a totally different part of the day. They actually waited, no doubt about that. The emergency was counted in days, not hours.

If they somehow screwed something up with their server architecture it would be really nice for them to inform us, that this emergency maintenance is connected to their servers, that have issues, that need to be addressed. It would also be really nice for them to say, that since they need to bring their servers down on saturday they're going to give everyone a free day. We all understand emergency procedures.

Regards,
Kalanrtis
A free day when the servers were down for a few hours? I understand the frustration, believe me I do. I couldn't freaking play either - I work late nights in the US so this effected me as well. Each time the servers have gone down late (here) it's effected me.

I suggest that you guys start reading before you hit "I AGREE" to anything. It explicitly states that you do not have a guarantee the servers will be up and running when you want, where you want. That's standard MMO policy. If you don't like that kind of policy, I don't think MMO gaming is for you then. This isn't a "US vs. EU" argument as much as this post is making it out to be. It's about the fact that you are complaining about something you consistently agree to. If you've ever watched South Park - think of the centIpad.

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Bobinator
01.28.2012 , 10:16 AM | #649
Its a saturday...
As of right now, i'm rash free.

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eyelids
01.28.2012 , 10:16 AM | #650
what the hell did that maintenance do? my FPS is once again ruined. totally unplayable.
last patch fixed it a bit.. now, it's as horrible as it was.
Cows go "Moo", Dogs go "Woof", PVPrs go "PVP is unbalanced"