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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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sjmc
01.28.2012 , 09:48 AM | #91
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I would also argue from the perspective of the game designers that by design certain pieces of gear are intended for certain classes through appearance, not only stats, though they may be used by others. The primary function served by this is that of silhouetting, or making player characters distinctly distinguishable on the battlefield. It was a very important design decision to the team that worked on Warhammer: Age of Reckoning, and it is common knowledge that part of that team was tapped for the design of SWTOR as well. Does that mean that nobody else should ever use a piece of gear designed for class X? No. The designers' intention does not mandate the use, but instead only strongly suggests it.
So if the silhouetting of particular characters is important, then what if an Agent wants to be silhouetted as a Marauder? Does an Agent have a lesser right to look like a Marauder, especially if the Marauder in the group already looks like a Marauder?

If the designers are making a special point to have a certain appearance, then needing for that particular appearance seems to gain validity.

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Grecanis
01.28.2012 , 09:50 AM | #92
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So if the silhouetting of particular characters is important, then what if an Agent wants to be silhouetted as a Marauder? Does an Agent have a lesser right to look like a Marauder, especially if the Marauder in the group already looks like a Marauder?
"wants" being the operative word here

A want is not a need ..it would behoove you to learn that.
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01.28.2012 , 09:54 AM | #93
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sjmc
01.28.2012 , 09:55 AM | #94
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"wants" being the operative word here
If it is not a stat upgrade for the Marauder, should he roll greed on a "Super Awesome Marauder Suit" that drops?

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Ronamo
01.28.2012 , 09:58 AM | #95
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So if the silhouetting of particular characters is important, then what if an Agent wants to be silhouetted as a Marauder? Does an Agent have a lesser right to look like a Marauder, especially if the Marauder in the group already looks like a Marauder?

If the designers are making a special point to have a certain appearance, then needing for that particular appearance seems to gain validity.
The entire point behind the silhouetting method of character and armor design was specifically to insure that one class did not look like another.

I'm not sure why you brought up "rights" in any case. I did not argue for or against any character being able to wear any armor of their weight class or lower. I merely commented on the design decisions behind the appearance of gear, and in fact concluded that the designers intention did not dictate who wore the gear.
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Grecanis
01.28.2012 , 10:02 AM | #96
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If it is not a stat upgrade for the Marauder, should he roll greed on a "Super Awesome Marauder Suit" that drops?
If it is not an upgrade for the Marauder then it becomes a "want" for them as well.
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sjmc
01.28.2012 , 10:03 AM | #97
Game mechanics question: Can you remove mods from gear without binding to them? If you win an orange piece of gear, can you take out whatever mods might upgrade someone else to give to them?

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Neptunius
01.28.2012 , 10:04 AM | #98
This is why i only did 2 FP on my main while i lvled him up.

I didnt do any FP since then and now going on my 4th 50... I dont see any time soon, that i will join any groups for FP.
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Ronamo
01.28.2012 , 10:08 AM | #99
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Game mechanics question: Can you remove mods from gear without binding to them? If you win an orange piece of gear, can you take out whatever mods might upgrade someone else to give to them?
No. As soon as you modify an unbound item it and all of its mods become bound to you.

If the orange item were BoP to begin with, you wouldn't even need to modify it first for the binding to take effect.
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Grecanis
01.28.2012 , 10:13 AM | #100
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No. As soon as you modify an unbound item it and all of its mods become bound to you.

If the orange item were BoP to begin with, you wouldn't even need to modify it first for the binding to take effect.
You can strip a mod from a BOE without it binding ..also you can mod a BOE with a BOE without it binding.
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