No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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RagnarokJC

01.27.2012 , 05:29 PM \| #1301
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian What ignorance exactly ? The kind of ignorance you seem to have about basic morality. Oh yes, I'm not done with you yet, kid.
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Maccaroth

01.27.2012 , 05:29 PM \| #1302
Quote: Originally Posted by chton But I don't need your social contract. And I don't need anyone to "give up" loot for me. Since I don't expect anyone to give up anything for me, why would I give anything up for them? I'll just quote myself: "Answer is "to maximize the group efficiency". Since in the flashpoints only the players are present it's better to socially allow need for those who would make direct use of it to help the group now and in the future and maximize the chance that each class/character will be able to roll for "his" gear. If there are more than one character who can make use of the loot it's acceptable to allow them all need for it. If there is no need for character then many people take greed as default. To sell it, to give it to a companion and so on. Some ask if they can take need for a companion and I saw no one who had a problem with it. There are people who will take need for a companion over the player on any loot. While they are allowed - by the game mechanic - it can be viewed as socially unacceptable. Why? Because he can take need for anyone's gear as (s)he see fit. Social contract which allowed you to take need for "your" type of gear case to exist. It's obvious that this person is a danger to all people in the group and will be alienated. That's why people taking need for a companion before asking first (or discussing the loot rules) are not welcome by many people".
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samht

01.27.2012 , 05:30 PM \| #1303
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian Newsflash: This is SW;ToR not Wow.. Who else would they be rolling against? Themselves? Assumtion or do you have some facts to back this claim up? So you know everyone personally, their living arrangements and what time they walk their dog I guess. Must be a heavy load having so much knowledge of everyone else. Me, I think you pulled that statistic out of somewhere smelly. I knew I should have stopped reading when you mentioned WoW, that told me all I needed to know. Fine by your logic, news flash this is swtor and players will roll against you main spec for the companion, you just got served-1ouch!!!
What's up with the no LFG and LFR

Setanian

01.27.2012 , 05:30 PM \| #1304
Quote: Originally Posted by RagnarokJC The kind of ignorance you seem to have about basic morality. Oh yes, I'm not done with you yet, kid. Oh, but I'm done with you.. Kid..
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RagnarokJC

01.27.2012 , 05:30 PM \| #1305
Quote: Originally Posted by Eldren Why is it "empathy, compassion and respect for equals" when you're rolling on what you want, but "greed" when someone else is rolling on what they want? What the #$#@ are you talking about, seriously? It's really simple: if it's an upgrade for you, roll Need on it. If it's an upgrade for someone else, roll Greed or pass. True greed is rolling on everything and anything regardless of whether you can use it or not.
"Consider it a health timer. Go outside and run until the timer expires, fatty." - Darthjazzyjeff

Eldren

01.27.2012 , 05:31 PM \| #1306
Quote: Originally Posted by Grecanis Because it's the right thing to do. According to whom?
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Setanian

01.27.2012 , 05:31 PM \| #1307
Quote: Originally Posted by samht Fine by your logic, news flash this is swtor and players will roll against you main spec for the companion, you just got served-1ouch!!! If someone rolls and wins, I'm delighted for them. If I roll and win, I'm delighted for me. it's just a shame others can't share that view and instead want to be selfish little brats.
What is that baseball bat in your signature? Oh! It's a lightsaber! How cute is that !

RagnarokJC

01.27.2012 , 05:31 PM \| #1308
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian Oh, but I'm done with you.. Kid.. Running away? Come on, I'm even giving you the opportunity to use cromulent words like "matureness"...
"Consider it a health timer. Go outside and run until the timer expires, fatty." - Darthjazzyjeff

StonySpider

01.27.2012 , 05:32 PM \| #1309
Quote: Originally Posted by Eldren Why is it "empathy, compassion and respect for equals" when you're rolling on what you want, but "greed" when someone else is rolling on what they want? Because if you want it for your companion their their need is more paramount. Think about it, we look to gearing our own characters before gearing our companions, so obviously the player character is more important in the long run. If you both can use the item being rolled for, and I mean YOU, your character, not your companion, and I mean USE, as in actual, measurable value, then you should both need it.

Eldren

01.27.2012 , 05:33 PM \| #1310
Quote: Originally Posted by RagnarokJC What the #$#@ are you talking about, seriously? It's really simple: if it's an upgrade for you, roll Need on it. If it's an upgrade for someone else, roll Greed or pass. True greed is rolling on everything and anything regardless of whether you can use it or not. You're proving my point for me, even if it lacks eloquence. If it's an upgrade for me, I will roll Need on it. "Me" is defined as "My character, or one of my companions", and items to be rolled on include "Items that I meet class restrictions for, items that have even one mod in them which would upgrade a version I currently have, or items that will upgrade a companion of mine."
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