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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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Galbatorrix
01.27.2012 , 04:21 PM | #1221
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
If you need it for something, you need it. If you don't, you greed it. it's simple.


*sigh* Do you really not get that your logic has NO limits? Everyone can hit the need button on everything. Everything, in the very least, can be sold for credits. So, in essence, with your logic, you have a completely valid claim on every single thing that drops. Is that really how you want this game to be?

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Setanian
01.27.2012 , 04:21 PM | #1222
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Na, I'll just stick to the option of booting you and then ignoring you. You'll only do it one to me, so no big deal.
if you play the way you claim to, I'd be delighted to be on that ignore list. But the real reason you won't petition, is probably because the most fairest and easiest way to fix this, is to remove the 'need' button. And that just wouldn't fit in with your scheme at all.
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The_Archon
01.27.2012 , 04:22 PM | #1223
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
If you need it for something, you need it. If you don't, you greed it. it's simple.
That simple concept is lost for many people in this thread.

"To vendor it and keep the creds" is not a need.
"It looks cool on my companion" is not a need.

Folks in this thread who are comfortable rolling on loot that they themselves can't use or isn't an upgrade for them are the ones who'll be kicked from any group I run, no questions asked. The caveat is if nobody else can use the item either. A little basic communication is all it takes.

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ferroz
01.27.2012 , 04:22 PM | #1224
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
Na, I'll just stick to the option of booting you and then ignoring you. You'll only do it one to me, so no big deal.
based on how you post in this thread, that's no great loss...

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Setanian
01.27.2012 , 04:22 PM | #1225
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
*sigh* Do you really not get that your logic has NO limits? Everyone can hit the need button on everything. Everything, in the very least, can be sold for credits. So, in essence, with your logic, you have a completely valid claim on every single thing that drops. Is that really how you want this game to be?
Incorrect.,. I have a valid entitlement to roll and see if I win.. And there-in lies the bit you can't, or more to the point I believe, won't accept.
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The_Archon
01.27.2012 , 04:24 PM | #1226
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
*sigh* Do you really not get that your logic has NO limits? Everyone can hit the need button on everything. Everything, in the very least, can be sold for credits. So, in essence, with your logic, you have a completely valid claim on every single thing that drops. Is that really how you want this game to be?
I'll ask you as well: do you understand the difference between the concept of need and greed?

"Hmm this is an upgrade for my weapon."
"HAY I CAN SELL THIS FOR 50c!"

Everyone *could* hit the need button every time on everything. If they were stupid.

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Eldren
01.27.2012 , 04:24 PM | #1227
Quote: Originally Posted by T-rollin View Post
That would require the same kind of effort you refuse to exert in your own posts.
Things are falling apart for you now, T-rollin, I can see that. You're alluding to things that haven't happened, and retreating behind logical inconsistencies in order to show why you can't back up your own statements.

I mean, if that's what works for you, by all means, continue. Just realize you're doing yourself more disservice than any aspersions you attempt to cast on your opposition ever could.

More power to ya, brother.
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Galbatorrix
01.27.2012 , 04:24 PM | #1228
Quote: Originally Posted by Setanian View Post
if you play the way you claim to, I'd be delighted to be on that ignore list. But the real reason you won't petition, is probably because the most fairest and easiest way to fix this, is to remove the 'need' button. And that just wouldn't fit in with your scheme at all.

No, removing the need button would make running flashpoints pointless after the first run to see the content. You grind those because the gear usually is several levels better than what you can currently get and it lasts you a while. People needing on everything takes away most people's sole reason for running them in the first place.

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T-rollin
01.27.2012 , 04:24 PM | #1229
Quote: Originally Posted by Eldren View Post
Things are falling apart for you now, T-rollin, I can see that. You're alluding to things that haven't happened, and retreating behind logical inconsistencies in order to show why you can't back up your own statements.
Annoying when someone else does it, isn't it?

FYI - That would be to hide not being able to back them up Professor, not show them.

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VanorDM
01.27.2012 , 04:25 PM | #1230
Quote: Originally Posted by Maccaroth View Post
It's the same question I keep asking myself when I happen to break some IRL social tabu.
Well to be fair, I tend to dissage with any sort of concept of 'unseen social contract' because I think the idea is a bit of a farce. How can I reasonably be expected to uphold a code of conduct that I've never been exposed to?

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If you allow needs of the companion to be treated the same way as the needs of the player's character then you'd ruin social contract (since everyone could take need on anything).
I don't think many people would bother rolling need for a companion that they don't ever use. It can happen sure, but no one who is in the "pro-companion need" that I have seen, has said they'd do something like this.

Basing a rule on the exception is a bad idea.

Now I would most likely actually ask before I rolled need for a companion, especially if I was part of a group of 4 people. Even if no one could wear it, I would likely ask first, because I'd consider that the least likely way to cause conflict.