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Sorcerers are becoming the next Bright Wizards

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Sorcerers are becoming the next Bright Wizards

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EternalFinality
01.27.2012 , 03:00 PM | #271
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People keep moaning about CC, has anyone ever died to a CC ability?
Are you serious

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Zeila
01.27.2012 , 03:08 PM | #272
Any competent player can destroy a sorc, once our tools are on CD we can't get away. Everyone complaining is just plain bad and can't figure out mechanics.

Flame On.

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Velien
01.27.2012 , 03:09 PM | #273
If soc so powerfull (the best dps in game) why every 1 in general chat askin for sniper, BH, Operative to join HM flashpoint , Ops. If u lookin on chart after WZ soc is not in 1 place with damage. We often on first place but with medals that huge diffrence. We can easly get 8-9 medals in game. Our dps suck but we have few tricks to win 1v1.

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Audenlol
01.27.2012 , 03:11 PM | #274
Quote: Originally Posted by Velien View Post
If soc so powerfull (the best dps in game) why every 1 in general chat askin for sniper, BH, Operative to join HM flashpoint , Ops. If u lookin on chart after WZ soc is not in 1 place with damage. We often on first place but with medals that huge diffrence. We can easly get 8-9 medals in game. Our dps suck but we have few tricks to win 1v1.
Because a Sorc is healing and does not want to share loot drops.


Use your brain.........

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Balmuck
01.27.2012 , 03:19 PM | #275
As the first RR80 Engineer and first RR100 Zealot on my respected Servers... and as a player who has played with the best guilds that ever existed on WAR..

Saying that a Sorc/Sage is ANYTHING like the BW is completely asinine.

First.

When BW were OP, they had ONE ability that would to TON of AoE damage and on top of that, their moral 2 would stun everyone around them which ment that nobody could get out of that AoE. Simply, they would just stun and spam one button to kill everyone on the screen.

If you still claim that Sorcs are the same, I want any of you to go out and do as I said. Spamming Force Lighting may be one thing but there is no comparison between the classes... especially since Force Lightning hits for 700 per thick on single targets.

Second..

BW, after the nerfs, was and still is a time stamp class. All their abilities stack as such to where they can be used to burst a target at a 5-10 second mark and kill it instanly, however, that being said, it's ridiculously easy to counter that burst with a tank or a healer. Doesn't make it any less OP but proper groups in WAR had no issues with BW/Sorc.. actually, for any smaller scale fights, especially 6v6, BW and Sorcs were jokes and melee trains were ALWAYS prefered.

Saying that, Sorc/Sages will NEVER time stamp one pearson's HP at once.. It's not humanly possible no matter what buffs you use and while their damage is pretty steady, just like above, having any decent healers around that can cleanse and or such, renders their damage pretty much laughable as best.

There is a reason you see healers pumping out million + in healing during Voidstar games..
FULKAN

You can run, but you'll only die tired.

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Velien
01.27.2012 , 03:36 PM | #276
Im not a healer soc but u guys wanna nerf healing for soc. How u wanna do after NMM ops or 16 ppl ops. Dont blame healer after he suck on healing.

Force Lightning on well geared pvp guy is 500-600 a tick (about 2,5K to 3K ) in 3s. Killer ability.

i have all champion gears i dont have chance 1v1 with sniper only if i los him and he not chase me. Try to kill well geared Powertech or 1v1 with good maruder.

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Asnine
01.27.2012 , 03:38 PM | #277
Quote: Originally Posted by Balmuck View Post
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Fulken?

Just guessing by your signature. If you are I'm surprised you held back so much in your post

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Balmuck
01.27.2012 , 03:48 PM | #278
Quote: Originally Posted by Asnine View Post
Fulken?

Just guessing by your signature. If you are I'm surprised you held back so much in your post
haha, yea, it's me.


Just trying to make point here. This game is nothing like WAR as far as the casters are concerned.


If there was a class that was like Sorcs or Sages it would be a DPS AM. However, most people who've made class comparions so far, have only either played WAR for a month or just seen all the QQ about BW and Sorc...

I do feel bad for them, lol. I out-damaged and out killed pretty much every single one of my ****** Engineer.
FULKAN

You can run, but you'll only die tired.

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Doki
01.27.2012 , 04:00 PM | #279
Quote: Originally Posted by Balmuck View Post
As the first RR80 Engineer and first RR100 Zealot on my respected Servers... and as a player who has played with the best guilds that ever existed on WAR..

Saying that a Sorc/Sage is ANYTHING like the BW is completely asinine.

First.

When BW were OP, they had ONE ability that would to TON of AoE damage and on top of that, their moral 2 would stun everyone around them which ment that nobody could get out of that AoE. Simply, they would just stun and spam one button to kill everyone on the screen.

If you still claim that Sorcs are the same, I want any of you to go out and do as I said. Spamming Force Lighting may be one thing but there is no comparison between the classes... especially since Force Lightning hits for 700 per thick on single targets.

Second..

BW, after the nerfs, was and still is a time stamp class. All their abilities stack as such to where they can be used to burst a target at a 5-10 second mark and kill it instanly, however, that being said, it's ridiculously easy to counter that burst with a tank or a healer. Doesn't make it any less OP but proper groups in WAR had no issues with BW/Sorc.. actually, for any smaller scale fights, especially 6v6, BW and Sorcs were jokes and melee trains were ALWAYS prefered.

Saying that, Sorc/Sages will NEVER time stamp one pearson's HP at once.. It's not humanly possible no matter what buffs you use and while their damage is pretty steady, just like above, having any decent healers around that can cleanse and or such, renders their damage pretty much laughable as best.

There is a reason you see healers pumping out million + in healing during Voidstar games..
I think you missed the point .. he/she didn't mean Bright Wizard by mechanics -- he/she meant by general overpoweredness/detriment to the game.

Hey, speaking of Warhammer, remember the first fix to teh Bright Wizard issue not being a nerf to Bright Wizards, but a nerf to Engineers (Electro Magnets)? Ah, Mythic at its finest...
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As for Scoundrels having no tools for short burst healing, we don’t agree with that assessment. A scoundrel, for example, is capable of producing rather significant burst healing output by using Upper Hand gained from Underworld Medicine or Kolto Injection to trigger an instant Emergency Medpack or Surgical probe when needed.

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Balmuck
01.27.2012 , 04:09 PM | #280
Quote: Originally Posted by Doki View Post
I think you missed the point .. he/she didn't mean Bright Wizard by mechanics -- he/she meant by general overpoweredness/detriment to the game.

Hey, speaking of Warhammer, remember the first fix to teh Bright Wizard issue not being a nerf to Bright Wizards, but a nerf to Engineers (Electro Magnets)? Ah, Mythic at its finest...
Sorc and Sages aren't over powered... They don't come close to BW/Sorc.

As far as Engineers Electro Magnets were concerned... That wasn't a nerf, lol. That was a fix. You could pull people through walls and ****.
FULKAN

You can run, but you'll only die tired.