No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

And that's why I think it's so hard for people to agree on just how this sort of thing can be handled. I can very much see a "common good" when it comes to handling loot distribution. If a member of a party gets an upgrade to his equipment, that benefits me in the short term (for the remaining duration of the flashpoint or operation) it benefits him in the short term, it benefits the rest of the party in the short term. It benefits all of us in the long term if any of us ever run with that player again, and even if we don't, at the very least, we have one player out there who has better equipment than he had when he started. This is a good thing. I consider that a common good even if that's not something that can be strictly defined.

So yes, I prioritize that over someone who is willing to let anyone roll for anything as their whim suits them and where we may end up with instances of people walking away with equipment that does not benefit them stats-wise/power-wise but that they took only for looks purposes.

Usefulness takes precedence over vanity. Maybe that's a value you'd prefer I not be espousing because you don't like the idea that I'm putting my priorities in your face, but so be it. The system, as is, lends itself to this kind of abuse. And until people start being a bit more responsible with their use of the "Need" button, you're not going to convince me that there shouldn't be some more control hard-coded into the looting system, or at the very least, a more stringent community-based policy put in force on what's acceptable and what's not.

Then present it at the beginning so they can leave if they disagree. It's rather simple, you may not agree with it, but don't be silent then boot them, badmouth them, whatever because they did what they felt was right for them, and nothing was said prior so they could drop and let you find someone else.

I solute you sir. You play the game the right way.

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I have same experiences on my current server and the 6 months of beta I played. Realizing that these forums are skewed and do not proportionally represent the actual player community is key.

No not really. It's quite easy to draw the conclusion that not everyone feels the same way.

Stop telling people what they should and shouldn't do. If it's your right to need things over the people in the group that can use them as an upgrade, it's their right to boot you, badmouth you, get guilds to black list you and anything else they want to do to you.


Start playing right and those things won't happen.

Oh - don't get me wrong. I haven't run into this issue at all as I don't do PUG's for the very reasons being related here. I play with Guild members that I know are playing the game to further their characters and the Guild as a whole.

If I were in a PUG I would ask up front what was acceptable and make my decisions based on that and if it were a group dedicated to color swatches and looking pretty I would bow out gracefully.

No troll.

Believe it or not, my wife actually likes playing dress up. She cares less about the stats than she does about how something looks. She'll happily progress a little slower, or wait another level before we can take down that particular quest, if it means she's got a look she likes.

By your response, I can only assume that you're completely unfamiliar with women, and have certainly never been blessed with one who games with you. And that's before we even touch on roleplayers and the like, to whom appearance is equally important.

The fact that you cannot see beyond your preferred playstyle explains fully and completely why you cannot see beyond your need for loot priority. You won't even acknowledge the existence of other priorities - how could you possibly respect them?

The right way.... so now you decide what is right and wrong? Some have said the people with the minority view should bring it up for discussion prior to killing anything. I will say those who have a view different from what the game allows should bring it up. Since if they see the system says this, and they follow that, but all of a sudden they roll and win something they want, they get booted, called names and the like. If you have the differing view to what the game has in place, YOU are the more able candidate to bring it up.

No, there is no need. Stop lying to your self. You don't NEED it. You WANT it.

It goes to whoever wants it. Period. You don't get to dictate what want is valid and what isn't.