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Hero Engine: why?


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Tokeee
01.27.2012 , 02:12 PM | #701
Quote: Originally Posted by MrTijger View Post
Idiotic statement, EA wasnt in the picture when the engine was chosen, something a develope would know.
If you're in any way familiar with the industry, you should know better. The engine was chosen circa 2006 when there had already been rumblings of EA purchasing BW since 2004, or at least looking into the possibilities. The fact is, BW knew they were going to have the bank roll due the publishing relationships they had, as well as the funding firm backing them fully (EP). This was indeed a lazy and incompetent move by BW.

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Tokeee
01.27.2012 , 02:13 PM | #702
Quote: Originally Posted by JustTed View Post
Save it. "Throw money at it while spending an additional two years making our game" is terrible advice. You're fired. I'm sorry Age of Conan didn't work out for you.
Never worked on AoC. Sorry that you don't understand even an iota of how game dev works. Don't worry little soldier, one day you'll climb out of your helpdesk cubicle and into an actual technology field and realize the folly of your ill-spent youth. It's also the wiser company and man who spends his time developing quality, and not quantity. Hello Valve.

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brentonj
01.27.2012 , 02:16 PM | #703
Quote: Originally Posted by Tokeee View Post
If you're in any way familiar with the industry, you should know better. The engine was chosen circa 2006 when there had already been rumblings of EA purchasing BW since 2004, or at least looking into the possibilities. The fact is, BW knew they were going to have the bank roll due the publishing relationships they had, as well as the funding firm backing them fully (EP). This was indeed a lazy and incompetent move by BW.
Indeed.

The decision to use the Hero Engine was a combination of laziness, lack of creativity, and cost cutting maneuvers at its finest.
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DarkCarnage
01.27.2012 , 02:16 PM | #704
Quote: Originally Posted by Tokeee View Post
Yeah man, I made collages in kindergarten too and they are time consuming! Whew! Oh you meant college, sorry I got all excited about making a collage of failure from the bulk of posters in this thread and hanging it on my wall and... what were you talking about? Oh. Wait. Good lord this is difficult to read.

Yes, I'm well aware of the population fluctuation due to game release. However, after 1/3 and 1/14 there is still a declining trend in the number of subscribers logged on concurrently. It did not level off, although as they get lower and lower it does seem to be tapering closer to what will probably be their "6 month" player base, and then decline further after that. It's not growing, that much is certain.
well all that link shows active pop on servers not subcriptions. there a big diffrents. some poeple mgiht be paying but unable to paly due to 100's of factors. alot of poeple work, and unable to get one for periods of times. seems to me the gernal rythem shows from teh link is it down in the morning and goes up till around midnight and starts to drop after words. try to click and drag the whole graph it shows a down in pop after a point due to winter break ending.
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Tokeee
01.27.2012 , 02:19 PM | #705
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkCarnage View Post
well all that link shows active pop on servers not subcriptions. there a big diffrents. some poeple mgiht be paying but unable to paly due to 100's of factors. alot of poeple work, and unable to get one for periods of times. seems to me the gernal rythem shows from teh link is it down in the morning and goes up till around midnight and starts to drop after words. try to click and drag the whole graph it shows a down in pop after a point due to winter break ending.
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djsmileey
01.27.2012 , 02:20 PM | #706
We should discuss Cryptography next, since we can all use google and become experts on it.
If things get any worse, I'll have to ask you to stop helping me.

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VoXPCS
01.27.2012 , 02:36 PM | #707
Oh man I hope the investors are reading this thread! What are the chances that this will make it into the Developer Tracker with an official statement anytime before the onset of:

'We have great news for our community, Star Wars: The Old Republic has gone free to play!'

Population would definitely increase and BW could do less work than they're doing now!

Stephen Reid? You there?

Juan Valdez, or what ever? Hello?

James Ohlen? Hallo?
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Blotter
01.27.2012 , 02:37 PM | #708
Quote: Originally Posted by Tokeee View Post
It was drive-by subjective ranting, however judging from your vehement defense and blind fanboyism of BW I'm going to have to lump you two into the same category.
Yuo really think Bioware didn't take the engine and customize it immensely to fit their game? 72 pages of completely ridiculous assumptions and conjecture from people who haven't got a single clue about what they're talking or even a tidbit of inside information on which to base their blather. This thread is such an epic fail it's not even funny. And no, it doesn't make me a "fanboi" to point out that you're talking entirely out of your ayniss. I completely acknowledge that there are issues, but being an adult and having the moderate amount of patience required to wait for the fixes that BW has clearly stated they are working hard to implement, I don't feel the burning need to run to the forums and empty my bladder in everyone else's face like you people.
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eadnams
01.27.2012 , 02:43 PM | #709
ITT: uninformed conjecture, anecdotes presented as fact, and "It is only truth if I agree with it" logic

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MillionsKNives
01.27.2012 , 02:45 PM | #710
Everyone is aware that the engine was licensed in its earliest days, and they haven't received newer code for it right? They licensed it because they liked the tools it had, not because it was a complete and fully featured engine. In fact most of it was unfinished, which means that BioWare did most of the work on the engine for the game.

You're all aware as well that the engine on which a game runs is more of a groundwork for rendering, animation systems, API calls, etc. than for actual game logic right? You're not just conflating all of the source code into one thing and calling it the Hero Engine? No? Good, glad we got that cleared away. Now we can have pertinent discussions.

source: http://www.heroengine.com/2011/11/he...eets-starwars/