No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

** and is neither open to scrutiny from others, nor subject to their approval. **

Sure it is. If you don't want to be scrutinized for something that most players see as bad form, ask first. If you don't getting bashed is your own fault.

Depends on class. Troopers just get more troopers (+ a droid) if i recall correctly.

There's nothing inherently greedy about people who have all of their companions.

You mean, go with "Roll/Pass" like some have been saying?

First, I used the word "could". I also edited the post shortly after with some additional information. Basically anyone who feels they or someone else should get it over another party member has a sense of entitlement or that the other person has entitlement. That is all opinion. The game doesn't define that whatsoever, the game gives everyone in the group the same entitlement to roll on it. But not entitlement to the actual item unless you win. Anything beyond that is choice and opinion. And many people like to push THEIR opinion as the right one.

Exactly. Which is why we should move to a Roll/Pass system to avoid the loot drama.

Rule of Internet Debates, #41: Any time someone includes "technically" in their argument, it's probably a strawman.

Yes, someone could TECHNICALLY claim need on anything by assuming SOME companion could use it. But the reality is most people don't make use of all their companions - I expect two is probably the top variety for most, and three is an extreme limit. If someone wants to justify rolling on every single thing by saying some companion can use it, I wouldn't welcome them.

But that doesn't mean that companions should be off limits for loot.

Edit: And just to be clear, I certainly wouldn't kick someone from a group for it. I might look at them a bit skeptically and think they were justifying it, and take that into account. But if someone really did use all 6 of their companions at various times, I think they're well within rights to roll need.

The problem lies not with scrutiny, but with some players thinking their scrutiny should carry objective, undeniable authority over another player. They're upset because someone got what they wanted. They're upset because they lost, they can't accept losing, so they rationalize it by saying "something wrong happened."

Cognitive dissonance. The players all contributed, the players all get an equal chance to get a given piece of loot. If they choose a lower priority on a roll, or pass entirely, that doesn't obligate someone else to do the same.

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I am so sad that this thread actually had to be created and fortunately I've not ran into this problem. To the person who said:

I have to argue that there is an RL equivalent and that is knowing that you're not ruining the group dynamic. Someone else ran the FP/Heroic with you hoping to get the very loot that was dropped. If you don't need it, someone else in the group does. This is common courtesy. If you don't care about other people's feelings, I'd ask you to question why you're even playing an MMO and to check your moral compass.

And to the person who said, more or less, that this is a WoW view to loot and that someone who's never played WoW doesn't know these unwritten rules: I've never played WoW and thus don't know what these loot rules are. Here's mine which I base on common courtesy:

• If I don't need it, then I pass
• If my companion could use it, greed
• If I need it, then I need
• If it's for my class, but stats are lower than what I have on, then I greed

I guess there are just more selfish people out there than I care to think about. But when playing with other people who are taking the time to play with you in a group activity, don't make them suffer just because you want something that isn't suited for your class.

One more point I'd like to make: You're companion isn't running FP's with the group, why the heck do they need that drop when it will not benefit the entire group at that point in time?? Think about it.

Misquote much? I can see you are one of those who will do whatever you want because you believe it is your god given right. That's fine and it is mine to leave and let you find a new Tank or Healer. Enjoy.

My argument is strawman because I'm playing off your logic of needing for companions..... What does that say about your argument?



**The game doesn't define that whatsoever, the game gives everyone in the group the same entitlement to roll on it. **

Which is why Bioware needs to fix loot ASAP.