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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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ferroz
01.27.2012 , 12:29 PM | #951
Quote: Originally Posted by Calsetes View Post
Can we all at least agree to that? Regardless of what "need" or "greed" is defined as by you, run it by the group first? And then after that, should you still go by your definition, do not be surprised if you get "das boot?"
I'd say the onus is clearly on the people who expect to enforce some set of loot rules on other people.

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The_Archon
01.27.2012 , 12:30 PM | #952
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DarthKhaos
01.27.2012 , 12:31 PM | #953
The funny thing is if they want "that special look" they can either run it when they can solo it or get a higher lvl person to give them a hand. I don't care if the piece of ger is for me or someone else in the party. PLAYER gets first pick. If that person doesn't need then anyone else can roll need for any reason be it companion, the look of the gear, whatever.

I tend to wait to see how the person who can use the gear roll. If they roll need I don't if they don't I ask before rolling need. The thing is people don't have a problem once the person who can use NOW on their CHARACTER doesn't need it.

And as for me if the leader doesn't kick em I'm gone. Good luck finding a new healer or tank because that's what I tend to play once that class can do that role.
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ferroz
01.27.2012 , 12:34 PM | #954
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
The funny thing is if they want "that special look" they can either run it when they can solo it or get a higher lvl person to give them a hand.
No, you don't get to say your priorities are the correct ones and other people are wrong.
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I don't care if the piece of ger is for me or someone else in the party. PLAYER gets first pick.
I agree, the players gets first pick (and only the players can pick, no AI is allowed to roll). He might pick it for the stats, or for it's looks.

If he wins, he decides where to equip it... either his own wrist slot, or one of his companion's wrist slots.

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VanorDM
01.27.2012 , 12:35 PM | #955
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz View Post
I'd say the onus is clearly on the people who expect to enforce some set of loot rules on other people.
I agree.

This is IMO the single biggest issue with loot in SWTOR right now.

You have a group of people who used to do it a given way, in a different game and expect everyone in this one to somehow both know these 'unwritten rules' and agree with them.

Both of which are completely unrealistic. There's a lot of people here who haven't played WoW and have never been exposed to what might be considered the 'unwritten rules of loot' there, which lets face it, were never actually agreed upon by everyone anyway.

Appeals to common courtesy and manners is a massive farce, because those things simply do not apply in these situations. Mostly because there is no RL equivalent for them, so you can not simply apply your RL sense of fairness here.

Second, this is a different game, and so the same rules may not work here. Yet we have people trying to force a round peg into a square hole, because in the other game the hole was square.

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Eldren
01.27.2012 , 12:36 PM | #956
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthKhaos View Post
The funny thing is if they want "that special look" they can either run it when they can solo it or get a higher lvl person to give them a hand. I don't care if the piece of ger is for me or someone else in the party. PLAYER gets first pick.
I agree completely. The player gets first pick. What they do with it (if they win it) is up to them, and is neither open to scrutiny from others, nor subject to their approval. The player contributed, which gave the player a chance to roll on the item, a roll they won. It's theirs to do with as they please. They aren't leasing it from the "community" in a fashion that lets others determine its use, it's in their inventory, it's 100% theirs.
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SorrowOVtheNight
01.27.2012 , 12:38 PM | #957
I hate when people do this, and some even have the gall to need items I require just for their companion....

IE: Bounty Hunter needing a vibroknife I could use (I'm operative) because his companion Mako needs it...

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Eldren
01.27.2012 , 12:41 PM | #958
Quote: Originally Posted by SorrowOVtheNight View Post
I hate when people do this, and some even have the gall to need items I require just for their companion....

IE: Bounty Hunter needing a vibroknife I could use (I'm operative) because his companion Mako needs it...
You got the same roll he did. If you chose Greed after he chose Need, you've only yourself to blame, as you could have chosen a roll with a priority equal to his.

In the absence of that, you had the same roll he did, and he won it. It's none of your business what he's going to use it for. You had the same shot at it he did, and he just happened to win.
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ferroz
01.27.2012 , 12:43 PM | #959
Quote: Originally Posted by SorrowOVtheNight View Post
I hate when people do this, and some even have the gall to need items I require just for their companion....
I on the other hand dislike it when people label their own wants as "needs" and think they're somehow more important than other people's wants.

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Galbatorrix
01.27.2012 , 12:46 PM | #960
"And I can guarantee you that they would agree the people who roll on EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING, also could have that sense of entitlement."

You get what? 6 companions in this game? More than likely, at some point in your 40s, at least one of your companions will be able to use practically everything that drops. Are these people greedy? Between aesthetic looting and companion looting, you might as well get rid of the greed button, because everyone can technically use everything in some way or another.