Nerf Ops really?

Ok, take a<ways those crits from the Operative and give them HUGE aoe, HUGE shielding capabilities, knockback, many slows, all the abilities descipted before with great range and everything that the sorceror/sage has (which is a lot more than what i said).

Then we will not have many acs anymore and we will have the same AC with different name.

God forbid different classes having different perks.

I'm not saying we need a buff, I'm very content with shadow - I was using it as an example.

You have Dirty escape/flee the scene, shrap bomb/stopping power and medium armour. See what I did thar?

This is why operatives are getting nerfed.

QQ from people that know so little about the class that think operatives are spamming a skill.

Having Champion gear only means you have some free time.

You dont know what the operatives are using, you just qq.

Also, Operatives WERE killing you before the nerf? You do know the nerf isnt on live servers yet, do you? Or you mean the 1.1 buff stacking nerf that no one was against of?

Jedi shadows have a gap closer and a ranged snare.

yah i know... Sins/Shadows are a good example of a PROPERLY balanced stealth class.

They will win most of the time, but no fight vs a 100% health target is *ever* a forgone conclusion for a shadow/sin.. I know because I beat them often enough on my BH, i also know when its a GOOD assassin they will drag out the fight long enough that, short of some lucky crits, I will lose eventually because thier damage in melee is superior to what i can output and they have superior resource management, eventually that small gas tank *every* bh has gets you killed when you run out of gas.. its simply the main weakness of the class and Sorcs and Sins exploit that perfectly

No shadow in their right mind would go into a fight with half health and expect to win, because htye have to EARN every kill, and their fights go long enough that other people will often jump in to help...

Playing as my OP however I can go into a fight with half health and know if I crit on my opener, the fights in my favor and ill *probably* win before anyone can react.

That should no longer be a viable option in 1.1.1, if i go into a fight on my OP without full health, i expect my burst wont balance out the fight and ill lose..

Suits me just fine. I like a challenge

45 Operative here.
I've been pvp'ing a lot more since the 1.1 update and I have to agree with you. We are already the gimped class in PVP. We only win under very specific circumstances\situations. There is no way we are OP compared to some of the other classes.

Ops are one of the most blatantly broken classes I've ever seen in an MMO - rivaled only by my Barbarian in Age of Conan. If you can not see that, you are simply being biased and not looking at it Objectively. Killing tier 3 tanks in an initial stun isn't normal, but for ops, it is. The change is necessary, and you'll live.

Bioware isn't picking your class to nerf from a game of inny-minny-miny-moe. Nor are they choosing to do it based on forum posts (or they'd nerf EVERY class - look around). They have actual data, TONS of it, and that is what is influencing this choice.

Full disclosure: my main is a sniper, my alt is an Operative.

I don't play an Op, but my gf does. My opinion on the subject is, they should give it a little time, now that buff stacking has been fixed, and see if the problem still exists. We don't PvP much, but those nerfs will severely hurt Ops in PvE.

Shrap bomb is dirty fight we speak of scrapper nerf.
For wath i know even the shadow can disappear.
Stopping power is neh, usualli end in two people snared who watch it'self badly.... if is a inquisitor, usually is force sprint off range before the skill can be used after the knokback