Explain how Sages are OP...

I love the Grav Round/Tracer Missile supporters. Their argument is "BioWare forces me to use it! Its part of my debuff that triggers other stuff!". I play a Dirty Fighting gunslinger. I too, have an attack that supports my bleeds. I also have an armor debuff. Neither of those abilities crit for 3-3.5k. Neither of those abilities ever hit for 2k. Neither of those abilities are spammable. They both cost a pretty good amount of energy so it prevents me from using them over and over. But I guess GravRound and Tracer missile are just fine.

I run around wz and rarely get targeted when I am against low skilled players. Premades make a point of roflstomping me and rightly so. Know what? I last less than 10 seconds and only pull about 150k damage if I'm lucky.

Actually, Sorcs are Inquisitors and Sages are Consulars yes. But saying that Sage is the mirror to Sorc is 100% correct.

Fail mate! Get your facts straight before you correct someone?

Actually, I think it's more that everyone's talent trees need a bit of reworking. The tier 1-3 stuff is usually a little to good, and the top 2 teirs of talents are usually a little too weak. This means that investing deep into any tree is generally a bad idea, and so makes hybrid specs the most powerful.

Once hybrid specs are better than deep single, you end up with a position where hybrid classes have an advantage, as their hybrid combine multiple roles rather than just single roles - so the popular jugg specs are all missing the top 2 tiers of skills; the powerful Sorc spec that has everyone QQing is 20/21, etc. Pure DPS classes just end up with split DPS types or methods, and so don't really benefit.

My solution would be to buff most 31-point talents, and either slightly nerf low-tier ones, or else move them higher up the tree.

again some stupid statment about BH, im using 9 ability ATL in pvp, so quit the crap, thats not true.

I do love this "please don't nerf me" template. A great generic response for any overtuned class.

This.

Sages have three talent trees, any of which are fun and viable.
They can heal or choose one of two decent dps trees .


They don't have a single cookie cutter pvp spec. Most classes just go in to warzones with the same spec as every other member of their class. No one then tries to claim that an assault specd mercenary is also using talents deep in the bodyguard tree.

Not so for sage/sorc. If you are a healing sage for instance your dps is low and you lose almost all aoe and some of the control of the other trees.

Most other players are either ignorant of this or being disengenuous

Yes, since it is the utility based class this is kind of the point. They also have crap burst and light armor, the bit people seem to leave out when they whine about them. They also cannot heal and do decent damage, its one or the other.

There is little point in arguing with people who don't even understand the mechanics or their own class, never mind one they dont play.

This is supposed to happen. Commandos get great sustained dmg but when interrupted -> always dies.

It's what we have to live with to get our damage.

In my opinion the only thing that's wrong is either the cooldown of shields or the position of talents in the talenttrees.

You're in denial. Sorcs make plenty of kills in warzones - when a class is played by 60% of the player base there's always something wrong.

"But sorc has most interesting story" - yeah right, the amount of sorcs is increasing all the time and it's not the story that makes people to reroll.

FoTM = NERF.