NO Addons please. There is another solution!

I for one want a DPS meter or similar in game. Not to be able to judge other players but to use it as a tool to measure my own performance. And don't forget that jerks will be jerks, addons or no addons.

dunno why this thread exists... addons will come sooner or later anyway

considering the topic: if there wont be any addons the game cant become that hard cause without its hard to analyse mistakes, optimise dps or setups or even get correct data for theorycrafting. if u dont want addons i can just tell u, that u are afraid of beeing to bad and other players may see it and may dont wanna play with u. that said... just search for players on your skilllevel and u may be happier.

without addons the game wont develope

This person shouldn't post. You think any high-end guild will be fine with you not using add-ons? The leader will use add-ons and expect you to also use them so that he doesn't have to babysit you and tell you that you aren't doing your job.



I agree, no add-ons please. It makes the game less of a game and more of a job.

Are you seriously thinking about joining a high-end guild?
If you really want to join such guild, i suggere you have a much more open mind, because addon will be the least of what they would require of you


- Take vacation for the release of new content to be able to raid (top world guild raid from about noon to late in the night during progress)
- Accept to be on stand-by during raid time cause you can be called into the raid at any time
- Accept that anyone playing the same class as you but better can just take your spot, even if you are 2 years senior in the guild.
- Be ready to change completely you entire gear Mod/enhanc/etc... to optimize for 1 particular fight whatever the cost, credits are irrelevant.

So i ask again, you really want to join an high end raiding guild? i feel addons will be the least of your commitment.

Seeing as how this post is about Add-Ons and their implementation into this game... I felt no need to divert from the topic and talk about other requirements. I am already IN an end-game raiding guild and have enough skill from the last 9 years of End-gaming I did in FFXI and WoW that I am an Officer in my guild.

If you'd like I can post screenshots of my Data logs showing the Raid bosses and Heroic World Boss kills I have. Nightmare mode and the likes.


Now let's stay on topic, enough about me.

no need for screen, i take your word.

Here is my point of view.

I am by no mean in a Top world guild. My current guild in WoW (i play both) is currently ~200th world rank (25 man), working on heroic spine.

From my experience, actual raiding in game is only a part of understanding and overcoming the encounter. Many hours we have spent on WoL, discussing on our forum, as well as in the games on recount to lead to our heroic ragnaros first kill. This is why PVE in wow has such a depth and is currently the standard for every MMO. It's a mix of strategy, tactical decision and actual skill (and some times luck).

I wish to see the same level of depth and precision in SWToR in PVE, especially in nightmare mode. But combat log parsing and real-time analytics are necessary for that level of PVE.



Or we can have simple end game, not requiring much understanding, optimizing, anyone and everyone can do. But i feel the later will not mark the mind of players and will not elevate SWToR to the high of MMO PVE.

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Sorry but I couldn't disagree more.

I'm an old man, with poor eyesight, couldn't care less about a DPS meter although a combat parser of some description would be useful for the theory crafting, maybe logs I could then access out of game.

I would however give my right arm/leg/other for a threat meter and some kind of power aura ability where I can see when I've procced something without squinting.

Anni marauders have many things to keep track of, have a little consideration for the older and slower among you.

Give us a dps meter for only on target dummies then. I REALLY want dps meters, but only because i want to know what rotation works best for me. What spec gives me the best damage output, etc.

PLEASE give us some way of finding out how we can do the most damage.

It is disgusting how wow generation of players are killing mmo genre alltogether.

On crafting forum there are people that want craft missions gone and craft more like wow style?!? (Wow = bad craft, few games with player made items only have good craft)

On this forum you want wow interface. Hell why not (it has wow almost everything, why not change ui to wow and load the screen with nice color bars...or beter just go back to wow)

On class forums they want respec like in wow (no adv. classes or respeceble)

On general chat people talk like they are still in wow.

I could continue...

I was a tank in wow i needed alot of addons, endgame bosses wheren't doable without them tbh. I didn't like it but that was minor concern for me becouse i didn't like the game anyways. Played it to fill my playtime with something while waiting for beter game. I'm still waiting...

I've been playing mmos from the day they are out i think, played more than 20 diferent ones. This might come as a shock but WOW and all abominations that came after it are not as good as you think! (at least in my opinion and tens of thousands of players that tried a game before wow time.) Yup I know including this one.

Could be that i'm just old and don't understand new generation, everything is synthetic now anyway...