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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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Belbullab
01.26.2012 , 08:53 PM | #761
don't agree with the op. sorry.

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Sulvan
01.26.2012 , 09:01 PM | #762
No taking something for the mods is stupid especially in your case. All he could take out is the enhancement to use all he did was take something away from a class that needed it.

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itekazzawrrlic
01.26.2012 , 09:56 PM | #763
If you're allowed to roll on it, you're entitled to a shot at it. Even if it's just to put on the GTN.

Trying to stack the deck in your favor and then crying about greed is the height of hypocrisy.
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Azurewind
01.27.2012 , 12:29 AM | #764
If the loot rule is Need before Greed, then you operate by the rules of Need before Greed.

If you're rolling Need on an orange item with the intent of stripping the mods out of it and vendor trashing them, then congratulations, you officially don't understand how NBG has worked for years now, and you've just served to undermine the system.

Which is, of course, your choice, but don't pretend you aren't doing just that. Or that you're some logical crusader who is justified in his actions because he is somehow campaigning to make the loot system fairer for everyone.

Be proud of destroying the system that others are following for everyone's mutual benefit. Wear that badge with...pride?

Or...whatever you want to call it...

You rolled Need on that item, with all of its mods inside it, with the intention of selling those mods instead of using them, when another player in your group would've immediately put them to use. That's a Greed situation not Need one, and you've just hurt your team's effectiveness because of it.

The fact that SWTOR's orange/custom item system may be unique from other MMOs changes nothing.

Cosmetics are never a matter of Need when the cosmetic in question carries functional modifications with stats that better benefit another member of your party, which you intend to throw away in order to replace with your own.

...Of course since NBG is an honor system, you can freely choose to throw honor to the wind and claim Need on everything, thus destroying the entire purpose of the system. This act however, has been a top cause of smacktards getting booted out of top raiding guilds since vanilla WoW.

NBG is NBG. Follow it, or don't follow it. If you don't follow it, then expect to get an earful from the rest of your teammates and the community at large who do follow it.

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Frostbird
01.27.2012 , 12:53 AM | #765
This thread is proof that the implementation of a cross server dungeon finder can not damage the communty, since this crap is already common.
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ryancwn
01.27.2012 , 01:00 AM | #766
They should have gone with pure commendation loot system or Round the robin and do away with BoP equipments. NBG promotes loot entitlement and always create drama because somebody can always find a reason so his need is greater than the other people need. We have main tank that think he deserve certain piece more because he is THE main tank and you should equip him with the finest gear first etc.

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Tevax
01.27.2012 , 01:00 AM | #767
i find it incredible that people can try to justify Needing on gear they DO NOT NEED.

if the gear is not optimal for your class and spec then you do not need it .

Im a jugg DPS, and when heavy STR gear drops if it has defence stats on it i would be a real jerk to roll need on it as is clearly made for tanks.

However there are looser greedy ninjas everywere and the only thing youc an do is call them out on it or save screen shots to make them look bad to the rest of your server.

My server has a low pop, and all the good players and guilds know each other, it wouldnt be that hard to blacklist someone.

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ryancwn
01.27.2012 , 01:03 AM | #768
Quote: Originally Posted by Tevax View Post
i find it incredible that people can try to justify Needing on gear they DO NOT NEED.

if the gear is not optimal for your class and spec then you do not need it .

Im a jugg DPS, and when heavy STR gear drops if it has defence stats on it i would be a real jerk to roll need on it as is clearly made for tanks.

However there are looser greedy ninjas everywere and the only thing youc an do is call them out on it or save screen shots to make them look bad to the rest of your server.

My server has a low pop, and all the good players and guilds know each other, it wouldnt be that hard to blacklist someone.
Here you go, another person from the loot ENTITLEMENT camp think one deserve the gear more due to his 'ROLE' in 'THIS RAID'. God forbid the other DPS want it so they can change their spec to Tank when needed.

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Sai-to
01.27.2012 , 01:06 AM | #769
Quote: Originally Posted by Frostbird View Post
This thread is proof that the implementation of a cross server dungeon finder can not damage the communty, since this crap is already common.

Wrong. As long as you're limited to your server, you can blacklist the people who break the rules. And with the Legacy system, it makes it even easier.

Keep your propoganda in your own thread.

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Setanian
01.27.2012 , 01:10 AM | #770
Quote: Originally Posted by Tevax View Post
i find it incredible that people can try to justify Needing on gear they DO NOT NEED.

if the gear is not optimal for your class and spec then you do not need it .
Wrong! If I say I need it, I need it. The rest is none of your business. You get a roll, I get a roll. That's fair.

What you are stating as fact, which is false, is that you should be allowed to sway my choice of how I roll to benefit you. How greedy is that !
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