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Dark side/light side points cap

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Dark side/light side points cap

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Dria
01.26.2012 , 04:49 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by ninoss View Post
There is a dark side/light side points cap.
Yes I think that all knew that even before the game was out in the open but, anyhow.
Quote: Originally Posted by ninoss View Post
In order to achieve dark/light side rank you need to have a cap of these points and no points of different alignment. Thus aquiring any points of opposite alignment will cause you to be unable to ever reach dark/light side rank V.
I have had ... moments of light side and I am Dark Side V Max capped.
Every time I ended up stumbling the dark road towards the light.... I just did something
more natural to my RP character or used my companion and asked him to go for a *bleep* and he brought me back *bleep* + Gained Dark Side.
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Reyom
01.26.2012 , 04:50 PM | #92
Now I'm not sure if this was posted yet or not, I'm not reading through 9 pages of replies to check. It is possible to switch sides. It just takes -forever-. Once you cap on one side, any further gains to that decrease points you had on the opposing side. For instance, my sith assassin had about 600 lightside points. Once I reached 10k dark, the further gains of darkside points reduced the amount of lightside points I had. So, you can effectively switch alignments. It's just going to take you twice as long because you have to farm that 10k lightside, then 10k more to neutralize the darkside points you had.

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GamewizX
01.26.2012 , 04:54 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by ninoss View Post
As original thread was moved I'm reposting it with slight changes to avoid spoilers.

There is a dark side/light side points cap.
In order to achieve dark/light side rank you need to have a cap of these points and no points of different alignment. Thus aquiring any points of opposite alignment will cause you to be unable to ever reach dark/light side rank V.

Also it also causes your moral choices from once you are capped to have no impact on your character alignment (you can only get further away from it but only to point of total neutrality).

Frankly I believe this to be a tremendous mistake. While I almost absoluteley love this game and am defending it on almost every occasion (I'm very pleased by both the game and customer support so far) I see that as a huge, enormously big flaw.

First of all it makes light side/dark side choices more about being forced to stick to predefined path, without any customization into your toon morals. At least not if you want to access highest tier alignment gier. So basically if you have ever aquired any points of ooposite alignment your toon is gimped.

Second is being unable to shift alignment once capped. A Jedi can never fall, a Sith can never get redemption.

I can understand reason for a cap. But IMO you should be able to move towards full dark/light side. It could be done just by deducting newly aquired points from your opposite alignment and then adding them to chosen one. Maybe at slower rate. Just not at percantage system as this would make reaching max impossible.

I believe there are many players who have, in some degree, mixed alignment. They won't be EVER able to use highest tier relics.
Also, one mistake on alignment option will cause them to be forever unable to use highest tier relics.

It's irreversible choice which does affect endgame play.

Share your oppinions. Maybe BW will ackowledge the problem and make some changes.
This post is filled with misinformation. Once you achieve 10,000 points period (whether they are dark or light), any further points DEDUCT from the opposite side and put them into the moral option you chose. Basically, if I have 9900 light and 100 dark, if I choose a light option after this that gives me 100 light, it will REMOVE the 100 dark and voila, I've just achieve Light V.


OP, check your facts.
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Valin_Thren
01.26.2012 , 04:57 PM | #94
As many others have said, this would be a huge problem if it were true. It isn't. You can go back to playing now.

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Alxandria
01.26.2012 , 04:58 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by GamewizX View Post
This post is filled with misinformation. Once you achieve 10,000 points period (whether they are dark or light), any further points DEDUCT from the opposite side and put them into the moral option you chose. Basically, if I have 9900 light and 100 dark, if I choose a light option after this that gives me 100 light, it will REMOVE the 100 dark and voila, I've just achieve Light V.


OP, check your facts.
This^^

I have 10k on both light and dark, and I just trade deductions/gains as I do Diplomacy. I really dislike the misinformation that is out there.

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CptKloss
01.27.2012 , 08:02 AM | #96
lol...i'm reading the OP and i'm getting really MAD...but then i read people who actually know stuff...i'm so relived...lol
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Jetsunz
01.27.2012 , 08:21 AM | #97
Hmmm...so you were unable to reach Light/Dark rank 5 because you played space-bar commander and steam-rolled at light speed past the best available answers? lol

And here you have it folks,...entitlement at its finest. "I saw someone in game with rank V and I want it too,..but I don't want to work for it"

lol

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Jackobite
01.27.2012 , 08:27 AM | #98
Fantastic, after 5 weeks torture reading these forums, a thread with information...

and some misinformation /p not intended Im sure.

Long term plan for my main is maxed out light, then start going to the dark side.
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BadgerFett
01.27.2012 , 11:45 AM | #99
I didnt know about that i won't be able to buy Rank V items if i ever chose even ONE opposite side from my usual. I remember one time when i ACCIDENTALY picked dark side instead of light, and u tell me that i wont be able to reach rank v? come on this is just riddicolous...
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Nutsandbolts
01.27.2012 , 12:06 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by ninoss View Post
As original thread was moved I'm reposting it with slight changes to avoid spoilers.

There is a dark side/light side points cap.
In order to achieve dark/light side rank you need to have a cap of these points and no points of different alignment. Thus aquiring any points of opposite alignment will cause you to be unable to ever reach dark/light side rank V.

Also it also causes your moral choices from once you are capped to have no impact on your character alignment (you can only get further away from it but only to point of total neutrality).

Frankly I believe this to be a tremendous mistake. While I almost absoluteley love this game and am defending it on almost every occasion (I'm very pleased by both the game and customer support so far) I see that as a huge, enormously big flaw.

First of all it makes light side/dark side choices more about being forced to stick to predefined path, without any customization into your toon morals. At least not if you want to access highest tier alignment gier. So basically if you have ever aquired any points of ooposite alignment your toon is gimped.

Second is being unable to shift alignment once capped. A Jedi can never fall, a Sith can never get redemption.

I can understand reason for a cap. But IMO you should be able to move towards full dark/light side. It could be done just by deducting newly aquired points from your opposite alignment and then adding them to chosen one. Maybe at slower rate. Just not at percantage system as this would make reaching max impossible.

I believe there are many players who have, in some degree, mixed alignment. They won't be EVER able to use highest tier relics.
Also, one mistake on alignment option will cause them to be forever unable to use highest tier relics.

It's irreversible choice which does affect endgame play.

Share your oppinions. Maybe BW will ackowledge the problem and make some changes.


FALSE. I didnt read through every post so dont know if its been said already. Im lvl 43 Dark V with 300 or so lightside points(did some crafting missions for mats early on) when you do lightside nissions, your bar moves to lightside, doesnt mean you cant keep doing dark to make up for it and still cap it for Dark V.