Bioware - Implorment (?) from a genuine fan

But will all the other MMOs and games coming out I don't think the MMO community will be paying much attention to TOR by the time they become competitive.

I implore you Bioware, please....give us something! Give us hope for the future! Changes! Stop pretending like nothing is wrong! If you honestly believe nothing is wrong...that's a sign we need to stop wasting our time here because things won't ever get better. =/ I have faith in you guys to turn things around (the changes required aren't exactly sweeping overhauls...but they are pretty big), but we need to know they are coming!

Give it some thought, obviously end game content is the least tested aspect of a new MMO, sure they have some employee side department testing, but compared to the thousands testing low level content, it's more than normal to still have excessive bugs at this point. Has been with every game to date that releases end game raids at launch.

You should all quit and maybe come back in a year, when they have advanced the game and you are all way behind the curve. Because you are impatient and have demands that you already feel they cannot meet. AND you need a game that you cannot outrun the content on.

/2cents.

All of you people that are like the OP are the same. You're living in a fast food world with fast food expectations. The game has been out a month. Get over it. It will be fixed in due time. If you can't wait for fixes due to your impatience, leave, we won't miss you.

All of you people that are like the OP are the same. You're living in a fast food world with fast food expectations. The game has been out a month. Get over it. It will be fixed in due time. If you can't wait for fixes due to your impatience, leave, we won't miss you.



OMG LOL. This is the same post on every message board within the first month of launch. They said this when I started FFXI, WoW, FFXIV, and this. Everything I have ever played, some kid is poo poo'ing within a month that all the problems that affect HIM are not being fixed and HIS "community" of players is going to leave. Not ever stopping to think that the Dev team also may have to address issues and bugs in other areas of the game where other groups are playing. But he doesn't ever consider this because his community is the "heart and core of the game".

Then he threatens that some other game is on the horizon and this game will lose all its players to this other new game. Then he goes to play the new game and after a month he starts posting that all the problems that he is concerned about aren't being fixed and his community is the core of the game keeping it alive and if they don't fix his concerns he will be moving on to this other new game.

Blah, blah, blah. It's all the same. ONE MONTH. SIX DAYS. MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER GAME.

These are not magicians. They don't go into work each day and wave a wand. They go into work like everyone else for an 8+ hour day and analyze the problem and try their best to fix it as fast as possible. Then they go home to see their families and their kids, and to eat dinner, and maybe have a time to enjoy their own night for 30 damn minutes to watch TV before they go to bed to have to get up at the crack of dawn again the next day to come back to work to fix some problem some pre-pubescent clown is screaming about on an Internet forum so that he doesn't leave the game. ::::::::::::::

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Where exactly to you get the magnanimous impression that Bioware believes there are no issues with their game??????? Arrogant, IMO.

You do not appear to have much faith at all, to be honest.

Bioware, do you like it when trolls tell your paying customers to leave? Just wondering.

Since some of you are clearly lost in your own little worlds, let's break it down a bit further. I won't be a nice as the OP.

The biggest problem with this community is no one cares. The people who are casuals and not at end game like the arrogant person above dismiss any and all issues and complaints about the game by telling people to unsub. The raiders are only focused on the end game and don't care about the story and so piss off the story people. The PvP people see PvP as the most important thing , and so on and so forth.

The usual , and completely worthless, answer to this is somebody screaming "THE GAME IS ABOUT STORY FIRST!" To which I reply "Kindly show me where Bioware says the story is the only reason to play the game and that PvP, raiding, crafting, and the like are completely secondary reasons to play."

Because that is not what is presented, no matter how much you casual story people wish it was. Do you know what happens when the PvP'ers leave, and the raiders leave, and the crafters leave?

The game becomes stale. In 3 more months you'll finally stumble your way to 50 and have nothing to do but roll up an alt, so you'll do that, giggling about how great the game is. But anyone interested in PvP or Raiding will avoid it. New games will start attracting attention.

Without the people who are OCD about stats and raiding and PvP to find all the bugs in this content, it won't get much attention. Bioware will work on things like chat bubbles and ship customization and making sure lekku fit into a hood .... and then when you try to raid, you'll run into these bugs.

You know what happens at that point? Fanboys aren't patient. People stampeded out of STO. They ragequit Tabula Rasa. They hurled APB to the ground. They abandoned WAR by literally the hundreds of thousands.

And EVERY SINGLE TIME the same arguments about "faith in the devs" and "give it time" and "it's a new MMO" were put forth without any support, without any evidence that the developers saw the problems.

I don't hate BW. They've made a good game, taken some big risks, spent some big money and it's certainly not horrible. People cry about certain features or troll about this issue is the end of the world -- fine. Trolls are self-evident.

But unless and until you have actually PLAYED some of these raids and had Gharj LITERALLY kill you INSIDE the fleet -- please, just don't comment on these threads. You don't understand what you are talking about, and the long term effects of driving off the raiding and PvP community is what has killed otherwise great MMO's again and again and again.

I know you won't listen to this. I know full well I'm literally wasting my time , waiting for traffic to go down before I leave for home, typing this when I'll be dismissed instead of my points addressed. That's okay. I'm doing it hoping SOMEONE will listen.

TO the OP: The problem is not simple to fix, I suspect the coding on most of the ops is horribly tangled and was done in layers, and then hurried. Some of the KP bugs are only hitting some groups, and some of the Soa bugs only seem to show up on NM, at least in my experience. (Then again, I've seen the turrets resurrect themselves MORE than once, so any bug is possible).

I think the conventional bug approach (report bug, try to reproduce bug, etc) is not really viable here. We need to tell Bioware "look, take these things offline and rebuild them from scratch. We WILL continue to subscribe to the game once we know it's being addressed even if that means KP is down and unavaible for 2 months". I know I'd rather have an instance I can finish and chests I can loot rather than get the boss down to 8% and suddenly he resets, or have half the team get stuck on the shuttle and unable to enter.