No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

Whether I hold a minority view or not is open for discussion. These forums represent a statistical minority of the total player base. Even on these forums my view is, at best, a 50/50 split with the opposition, as the several threads on this concept that have come before amply demonstrate.

In short, your post here is invalid due to containing information that can't be reliably verified as you attempt to shore up your perspective with inaccurate "facts".

Having a discussion about loot before starting a run is fine, but don't fool yourself into thinking it's a requirement. It's a courtesy.

Whether I hold a minority view or not is open for discussion. These forums represent a statistical minority of the total player base. Even on these forums my view is, at best, a 50/50 split with the opposition, as the several threads on this concept that have come before amply demonstrate.

In short, your post here is invalid due to containing information that can't be reliably verified as you attempt to shore up your perspective with inaccurate "facts".

Having a discussion about loot before starting a run is fine, but don't fool yourself into thinking it's a requirement. It's a courtesy.

...if anyone in that class is with your group.

I can't believe I'm posting about item rolls, or about this issue. People worry too much about loot, and I'm a big believer in just enjoying the game.
But poor claims hurt group dynamics, and there's no need for this kind of thing.

Today, a Sith Marauder rolled Need to get this
Cademimu Sharpshooter's Jacket
+34 Endurance
+38 Cunning
+18 Critical Rating

when I pointed out it was made for an Agent, like me, he said he intended to strip out the mods and trade them.

When I noted that the mods are Bound, he insisted that since he could wear it, he could roll. More surprising was that when he brought the issue to /General, a few voices agreed.

Most did not, but the others need to know that sort of claim i's a party-breaker. This is clearly an Agent item - a huge upgrade in my case - and my next group will get a little less healing as a result.

One of the pleasures of running Flashpoints is the chance to get gear suited to you. If it's better suited to someone else, leave it for them.

If they participated in the FP BG ect they have a right to roll on anything, lets hope this proposed fix will never be on the list, if you didn't get the item you wanted wait till the next run maybe you'll get lucky on the roll. (time for the obligitory senario)

Bobs tee-total doesn't drink, never has, Jim does enjoy a drink now and then, both buy a raffle ticket. Bob wins a 12 year old bottle of singlemalt whiskey. So under your reasoning Jim should get the prize instead of the legitimate winner Bob? Even though they made the same investment in a raffle ticket and Jim lost, Bob should be denied his rightful property?

It's not abuse. It's simple: you roll Need on an item because you perceive you "need" it.

It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the urge for the credits a vendor will give you for it.

It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the urge for the credits a player on the GTN will give you for it.

It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to upgrade a companion.

It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to strip out even just one mod for an orange piece on you or a companion.

It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to upgrade a piece on your character.

If you were in the instance, if you helped down the boss, you have a right equal to any other player to stake a claim to an item.

That's all there is to it.

You are in the vast minority in this thread. Stop making statistics up. There are 3 or 4 of you and most likely you are logging in as an alt.

People like you get placed on the ignore list for good reason. Enjoy your MMO experience, I can guarantee you it will be fraught with much heartache and pain.

I'm sorry, but if you are running a party/raid and the loot rules aren't

Main spec > Offspec/Companion > Custom Gear

Then you are doing it wrong.