No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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Nightfox_

01.26.2012 , 03:06 PM \| #541
For someone using words rarely used in common day to day social activities in an attempt to sound like the more educated one in an argument, you certainly have a skewed way of looking at other people. EDIT: I'd love to have your in game name and server name so I can make sure you don't make it into any of my groups. The members I run with believe they also are entitled to their class gear and I find it my duty, as organizer and leader to keep people like you away from the rest of the team.

Eldren

01.26.2012 , 03:11 PM \| #542
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin I could not have demonstrated my point more clearly. This is exactly why they had to implement a game mechanic to prevent such abuse in previous games, and why it will eventually be implemented in this game. It's not abuse. It's simple: you roll Need on an item because you perceive you "need" it. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the urge for the credits a vendor will give you for it. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the urge for the credits a player on the GTN will give you for it. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to upgrade a companion. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to strip out even just one mod for an orange piece on you or a companion. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to upgrade a piece on your character. If you were in the instance, if you helped down the boss, you have a right equal to any other player to stake a claim to an item. That's all there is to it.
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Nightfox_

01.26.2012 , 03:12 PM \| #543
Quote: Originally Posted by Eldren It's not abuse. It's simple: you roll Need on an item because you perceive you "need" it. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the urge for the credits a vendor will give you for it. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the urge for the credits a player on the GTN will give you for it. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to upgrade a companion. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to strip out even just one mod for an orange piece on you or a companion. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to upgrade a piece on your character. If you were in the instance, if you helped down the boss, you have a right equal to any other player to stake a claim to an item. That's all there is to it. That's like filing starbucks coffee under the need section of your bills because you justify it by saying 'it keeps me awake'.

GellonSW

01.26.2012 , 03:16 PM \| #544
Why does this thread remind me of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_FL0...eature=related Ballplayer throws a ball into the stands so its free game. Girl grabs first and woman snatches it off because maybe she's bigger, stronger. Fair is fair, right? Certain things don't need to be written down to be aceptable social behavior. Rolling need for an item you can't use over another player who could just to sell is clearly a jerk move no matter how you slice it

Zhothon

01.26.2012 , 03:16 PM \| #545
Its very simple. You have a minority view and should clarify if the group is OK needing on anything. If not, then find a new group. Don't wait till something drops before having the discussion. Quote: Originally Posted by Eldren It's not abuse. It's simple: you roll Need on an item because you perceive you "need" it. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the urge for the credits a vendor will give you for it. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the urge for the credits a player on the GTN will give you for it. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to upgrade a companion. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to strip out even just one mod for an orange piece on you or a companion. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to upgrade a piece on your character. If you were in the instance, if you helped down the boss, you have a right equal to any other player to stake a claim to an item. That's all there is to it.

T-rollin

01.26.2012 , 03:17 PM \| #546
Quote: Originally Posted by eldren it's not abuse. It's simple: You roll need on an item because you perceive you "need" it. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the urge for the credits a vendor will give you for it. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the urge for the credits a player on the gtn will give you for it. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to upgrade a companion. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to strip out even just one mod for an orange piece on you or a companion. It doesn't matter if your need is sourced in the desire to upgrade a piece on your character. If you were in the instance, if you helped down the boss, you have a right equal to any other player to stake a claim to an item. That's all there is to it. lol!!

DarthWomprat

01.26.2012 , 03:18 PM \| #547
I'm just glad that this is an issue at all. Makes it feel like a real MMO..
"If Alderran were death starred right now, only hundreds of voices would cry out" - Lord Zalkido

stivius

01.26.2012 , 03:19 PM \| #548
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin Unfortunately, this is something that can only be fixed with a change in the game mechanics. You would be wasting your breath trying to explain the concept of sharing to a selfish person. These games evolve. Fixes and changes are entered into the release shell as time and bugs permit. Lets hope this one is high on the list. If they participated in the FP BG ect they have a right to roll on anything, lets hope this proposed fix will never be on the list, if you didn't get the item you wanted wait till the next run maybe you'll get lucky on the roll. (time for the obligitory senario) Bobs tee-total doesn't drink, never has, Jim does enjoy a drink now and then, both buy a raffle ticket. Bob wins a 12 year old bottle of singlemalt whiskey. So under your reasoning Jim should get the prize instead of the legitimate winner Bob? Even though they made the same investment in a raffle ticket and Jim lost, Bob should be denied his rightful property?
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Eldren

01.26.2012 , 03:19 PM \| #549
Quote: Originally Posted by Zhothon Its very simple. You have a minority view and should clarify if the group is OK needing on anything. If not, then find a new group. Don't wait till something drops before having the discussion. Whether I hold a minority view or not is open for discussion. These forums represent a statistical minority of the total player base. Even on these forums my view is, at best, a 50/50 split with the opposition, as the several threads on this concept that have come before amply demonstrate. In short, your post here is invalid due to containing information that can't be reliably verified as you attempt to shore up your perspective with inaccurate "facts". Having a discussion about loot before starting a run is fine, but don't fool yourself into thinking it's a requirement. It's a courtesy.
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Nightfox_

01.26.2012 , 03:21 PM \| #550
Quote: Originally Posted by stivius If they participated in the FP BG ect they have a right to roll on anything, lets hope this proposed fix will never be on the list, if you didn't get the item you wanted wait till the next run maybe you'll get lucky on the roll. (time for the obligitory senario) Bobs tee-total doesn't drink, never has, Jim does enjoy a drink now and then, both buy a raffle ticket. Bob wins a 12 year old bottle of singlemalt whiskey. So under your reasoning Jim should get the prize instead of the legitimate winner Bob? Even though they made the same investment in a raffle ticket and Jim lost, Bob should be denied his rightful property? Bob and Jim's receiving of the prize doesn't affect the entire contest next time it is run. Therefore this example is moot.

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