Gotta love people cancelling their accounts SOLELY because of PvP.

Well, when the "most experienced PvP team" releases content that is among the worse PvP ever released for an MMORPG, what's really the point of sticking around, especially since the live team is the same team as the development team? What? These guys are suddenly going to come up with something new and fun? We saw what they could do in Warhammer Online, then SWTOR comes out and removes any doubt that they know what they are doing. What gives? Are we waiting for their PvP guy to go back to school, to copy GW2 after it gets released, to complete his journey to enlightenment in Tibet? There's no reason for us to believe that the PvP in this game is going to get better. They've released this formula not once but twice... for the most part, it's playing just like the designers want it to.

You mean, you're surprised that people who came here for a good PvP experience don't want to continue to pay for broken mechanics, unbalanced CC, hardly any world pvp that could be considered actual world pvp, and then BioWare broke Ilum?

Why are you surprised that people aren't going to pay for what they aren't interested in? Are you just dumb? Or was this just a hell of a bad troll?

Just me but I think the OP is dumb and has no idea how to run a business that makes money. Or how pvp works.

All this bluebie crying about "Shut the **** up about PvP because I don't like PvP and it doesn't affect me" isn't a valid argument and really should be carebeared.

MMO pvp is MMO pvp. People that expect ground breaking new pvp are just delusional.

If you don't like pvp in MMOs, call of duty is that way ---->

Lol, You haven't played many MMOs at all if you think this is the worst ever. Most MMOs that have only been released this long haven't even put in a warzone or equivalent. But please enlighten me with the long long list of MMOs that you have played at launch that had better pvp in the first 30 days.

Actually people just don't want to be perma stun locked and deal with the outrageously broken CC in this game.

Next.

It's their money. People can cancel for any reason they like.

I personally find the game to be a good entertainment value for $15 a month. Especially since there's nothing else but Rift to play at the moment for an MMO enthusiast. I'm certainly not giving my money away to play a freaking panda.

Why don't they put individual cap on factions in ilum?

Why does Ilum valor give 5x the rate of valor of warzones?

Why was ilum released with non pvp quests?

Why is the loot system random?

Four simple questions, among many. The only reason why these issues aren't fixed, is imcompetance.

SWTOR has the pvp CONTENT to be a good pvp MMO, but the way it is implemented is illogical beyond belief.

They have gone to all the trouble to make warzones, open world pvp zones, pvp systems, yet they have fails ON THE VERY BASE LEVELS in their implementation. ONLY a team with NO EXPERIENCE in pvp would have allowed these things to happen.

This is basic pvp, it's like 2+2 in maths, it's so simple, they shouldn't even need pvp experience to know what they have done is stupid.

PvP in SWTOR atm is like a ferrari without any engine. It looks good, but it's pointless.

watch the coming attractions video on the front page, the dev says pvp is a big part of the game

nuff said.


end of the day, if you like the game play, if you don't get another, does not matter the reason you dislike the game if you dislike the game.

"should have"

I like PVP, I only play the PVE aspect of it because I have RL friends who do. I am canceling just because the nerfs to gunslingers have made it not at all fun. It takes too long for me to kill someone and once they get close to me they stun lock me or knock me out of cover and once I am out of cover I am ****ED. I have an ability that lets me stay in cover and it has a cool down, so basically I survive for the duration of that ability and then I die because all my defense is designed around a broken *** cover system.

See ya starwars. It was great until you "fixed" it. Now, like WoW you are balancing it to the point that PVP is boring and monotonous.

When your game design is referred to as the "PVP grind" you know you have absolutely failed at making a fun game.

i do enjoy a good story, notice I also mentioned I pvp everyday. I place top 3 and get tons of mvp votes too. So I know how....You sir are the one who isn't reading, or is not bright enough to comprehend.

I enjoy both aspects of the game. I would like to see improvements and added content to both pve and PVP however I find people obviously mismatched ideals and hopes with reality to be silly. I expect more to come.