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This game will be HIGHLY successful!

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Krempt
01.26.2012 , 02:08 PM | #111
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Originally Posted by James (out of touch) Ohlen
"The other challenge was to live up to and push beyond the expectations that MMO games like World of WarCraft have created. Players aren't going to understand if you don't have industry standard features".

Dosent matter what wow had at launch. It's a 7 year old game and BW is just feeding everyone ******** constantly like the so called "fix" to ability delay.

This quote above is a simple example of their lies to customers. Where are the industry standard features.

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mcfabulous
01.26.2012 , 02:10 PM | #112
Quote: Originally Posted by Krempt View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by James (out of touch) Ohlen
"The other challenge was to live up to and push beyond the expectations that MMO games like World of WarCraft have created. Players aren't going to understand if you don't have industry standard features".

Dosent matter what wow had at launch. It's a 7 year old game and BW is just feeding everyone ******** constantly like the so called "fix" to ability delay.

This quote above is a simple example of their lies to customers. Where are the industry standard features.
it came in a box
with a cd key
and half your wallet.

Industry Standard
Quote: Originally Posted by MackumDog View Post
oh come on its not that bad, and I bet there are Developers working right now to make it worse

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Krempt
01.26.2012 , 02:13 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by mcfabulous View Post
it came in a box
with a cd key
and half your wallet.

Industry Standard
I lol'd. So true.

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Mephismo
01.26.2012 , 02:17 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Umbral View Post
If I built a car that only had features that were available 20 years ago, how many do you think I would sell? Do you think me saying "what? That successful car from 22 years ago didn't have all those modern whatchamicallits when it first hit the market, and it sold like hot cakes!" would help me sell more?
Yes but you should have known what you were buying done some research tried before you buy etc

If you think what you bought is a lemon then its your fault.

Personally I think the game is great

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Jswizzle
01.26.2012 , 02:20 PM | #115
As far as the car analogy goes. Let me try.

My car model has been in production for over 20 years. It's made by Toyota. My 8 year old car has all the options of cars today.

My car is more stable and reliable than some newer car models released today. Enjoy

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liquidekkah
01.26.2012 , 02:31 PM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by Laeris View Post
Define "flop." I ask because the largest servers in Rift still have queues on weekends. There's hordes of people playing and they have cross server dungeon finding and PvP tools.

If you look at http://www.riftstatus.net/shards/na/statst you'll notice how almost all of the server loads are comparable or larger than SWTOR servers and they're mostly all going up in population (the trial shards typically get shut down periodically... that's why you see the -0.99 figures) If you look at http://www.torstatus.net/shards/us/stats you'll notice how all the servers are shrinking... some, remarkably.

So, which one is a flop? Rift is growing fairly steadily where ToR is going downhill.

So far, ToR's launch has been comparable to Age of Conan in terms of boxes sold. It is more stable than AoC but SWTOR doesn't have a viable end-game. You can only expect people or roll so many alts into a dead-end before they get tired of it.
And yet look at the server population. Big difference, no?

Sure the game is going down in population. The free to play month just ended last week. People are bound to start leaving, and the minuscule decimals of the population decrease don't reflect much of the mass exodus that people were predicting.

And also I'm not seeing how the data reflects either growth nor queues. Max queue across the board is almost universally zero, and the percentages of decrease on servers are higher than the percentages of increase on others.

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Draksen
01.26.2012 , 02:36 PM | #117
The game is great yes.
Not perfect, that's true, but a solid alternative to WoW.
And clearly the #2 most successful mmo right now, and I dont see why it would change soon.
So much potential.

And remember that the majority of people enjoying the game arent here in teh forums, they are in the game, playing it. Just passed by because I'm at work, cant play right now
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Kringlorr
01.26.2012 , 02:37 PM | #118
WoW is terrible. TOR wins by a long shot.

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Enako
01.26.2012 , 02:42 PM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by pipda View Post
First impressions are everything. The market is much different than when WoW came out, what MMO players seven years ago expected from their game is much different than today.

In a few years this game might be the perfect MMO, question is...will anyone care?
the question is, do the game companies care about the grizzled, white-haired arse mmo veterans anymore ?

it was seen through wow that these constituted a permanent, dedicated, but small percentage of gaming world. blizzard found out they amounted to a top 5%, among their 10 million subscribers with that 'which accounts have seen endgame content' research. it means that 9,5 million accounts in wow, have never seen molten core.

500,000 subscribers who played actively for a year or so is something good. and it can keep games going too.

but it doesnt satisfy shareholders.

and, catering to them alienates the rest 95%.

that is why games are 'casualizing' for a long time now. the rest 95% is the target.

market is indeed much different than when wow came out. back then online games were a niche. now, they are mainstream.

and mainstream would care more about this voice acting grand story concept than 'farming the random endgame raid for the 20th time to have a 0.5% better drop'.

..............

game will be a success indeed.

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Supercracker
01.26.2012 , 02:44 PM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by Laeris View Post
Define "flop." I ask because the largest servers in Rift still have queues on weekends. There's hordes of people playing and they have cross server dungeon finding and PvP tools.

If you look at http://www.riftstatus.net/shards/na/statst you'll notice how almost all of the server loads are comparable or larger than SWTOR servers and they're mostly all going up in population (the trial shards typically get shut down periodically... that's why you see the -0.99 figures) If you look at http://www.torstatus.net/shards/us/stats you'll notice how all the servers are shrinking... some, remarkably.

So, which one is a flop? Rift is growing fairly steadily where ToR is going downhill.

So far, ToR's launch has been comparable to Age of Conan in terms of boxes sold. It is more stable than AoC but SWTOR doesn't have a viable end-game. You can only expect people or roll so many alts into a dead-end before they get tired of it.
this is the biggest load of garbage i have ever heard....Aoc had what? 30 servers? AoC didn't even come close to the boxes sold in Swtor.
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