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Why I'm not playing.


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_BaconStrips_
01.26.2012 , 01:54 PM | #271
You basically went into detail every issue I have had with the game, well done OP.

11/10 would read again.
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fixit
01.26.2012 , 01:56 PM | #272
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
We are not doing it wrong. You did.....twice. ;p

You raced to 50, twice, skipped the entire game, space barred through everything, and found the content was not ready yet? That there were not enough people at that level to create and environment?

You picked an MMORPG, are playing it like a first person shooter where you race to the top to get the biggest gun, and wonder why its not working? ;p
I have three 50s....LOL! Starting 4th later. And I watched every VO first time through too.

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djsmileey
01.26.2012 , 01:58 PM | #273
Quote: Originally Posted by Maniacal View Post
Yeah, saying you are not flaming when you are, infact, flaming by insulting a person does not equal a win. Or a pass for flagging.

However I will bite and answer you for the OP. He is posting this, and on Amazon, likely because he paid good hard-earned money for a product and recieved something that was less-than. What he recieved was a PRE-CURSOR to the product that was previewed to him. SWTOR is not a finished game, nor is it really fun in the long-term.

BOTH OF THESE ARE OPINIONS!

Opinions that he, I, you, and anyone else who decides to say so are not only allowed to state because we paid the same as you, who are on the forums exercising your own opinion, but perhaps we feel obligated to warn others from a possible purchase with our bought-and-paid personal experiences? Or maybe encourage others to think OUTSIDE the blind and loyal fanboy box to see the game for what it is and is not?

Suggesting someone is 'impaired' because they choose to write a post critiquing a game is not only obvious 'flaming', but downright insulting on a personal level. I feel bad for you.
I think you may have missed the point.

The OP isn't trying to make the game better, he is just bitter and wants everyone to feel the same way.

Why are you trying to justify that for him?

You didn't like it, i'm sorry to hear that.

You did like it? thats great too!

The point is the OP has no POINT to what he's doing, claiming he has the RIGHT to do it is just ignorant.

I also have the right to jump off a 10,000 foot cliff, but you don't see me standing in line for that.

Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

/thread
If things get any worse, I'll have to ask you to stop helping me.

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siza
01.26.2012 , 01:59 PM | #274
Totally agree. Great Post.

It's a good game. Nothing more. It's a mediocre mmorpg.

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Asroha
01.26.2012 , 01:59 PM | #275
Quote: Originally Posted by Mezla View Post
Yeah, I got bored about 2nd paragraph in, once I realised that he was full of crap and making things up to make his negative review seem more legit.
My thoughts exactly. This reads more like an "anti-fanboy anti-bioware" hit piece than an actual "game review.

0/10

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Faytte
01.26.2012 , 02:00 PM | #276
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkerus View Post
I honestly suggest taking a break, reading a book, have a party. Do something else besides gaming in TOR.

You obviously have a lot of time to spend on two different characters. The rest of us don't have that time. Quite honestly I think this game appeals to the many of us who don't have a whole lot of time on our hands.

Maybe this game isn't for you.
There is plenty to do at end game for people like me.
Pray tell, what are you doing at end game?

The gear from hard mode ops is a joke. You can get better in 2-3 hours of pvp, more reliably to boot.

So what then, for the fun of it? Its all flashpoints youve already done..just harder. The new flashpoints at 50 are overtly simple.

Illum is a joke...

What is there to do?

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Blackardin
01.26.2012 , 02:01 PM | #277
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Agree with the OP, while most of the problems involving UI and such could be addressed: I don't forsee that happening for many months and by that time GW2 maybe wooing the masses. We shall see.
Anyone that has ever played a real MMORPG understands that they do not ship complete, but with just a shell. They then, slowly, over 7 to 10 years, evolved. That's why they call it a "launch". UI improvements will come in time.

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Still like TOR, but I can already see that if drastic changes and improvements do not start happening soon...MMOers will be soon looking else where.
Disagree. I think that the people with limited attention spans, that cannot or will not grasp the concept of a game such as this will leave. MMORPGers seem to be loving it.

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Also like to add another thing that I found lacking: no night/day and weather effects.
There are both. You were just too busy racing to 50 to notice? It rained at night last night on Nar Shaddaa.

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Ah well, maybe I am just sick of themepark mmos. Wtb sandbox MMO that is not Eve with an engine like say BF3. Heh. I will admit, however, that this has to be the best single player MMO I have ever played which makes it unique that way.
Perhaps you are in the entirely wrong genre? First person shooters might better suit you? Just seems that you are looking for something very different.

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djsmileey
01.26.2012 , 02:01 PM | #278
Quote: Originally Posted by Faytte View Post
Pray tell, what are you doing at end game?

The gear from hard mode ops is a joke. You can get better in 2-3 hours of pvp, more reliably to boot.

So what then, for the fun of it? Its all flashpoints youve already done..just harder. The new flashpoints at 50 are overtly simple.

Illum is a joke...

What is there to do?
What if you don't pvp? or you enjoy OPS/HardMode?

Just becuase you actively CHOOSE to not enjoy parts of the game, doesn't mean there is nothing to do.
If things get any worse, I'll have to ask you to stop helping me.

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Maniacal
01.26.2012 , 02:02 PM | #279
Quote: Originally Posted by djsmileey View Post
I think you may have missed the point.

The OP isn't trying to make the game better, he is just bitter and wants everyone to feel the same way.

Why are you trying to justify that for him?

You didn't like it, i'm sorry to hear that.

You did like it? thats great too!

The point is the OP has no POINT to what he's doing, claiming he has the RIGHT to do it is just ignorant.

I also have the right to jump off a 10,000 foot cliff, but you don't see me standing in line for that.

Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

/thread
OP did not like the game, and will not be playing. If he had just posted that, he would have been flamed for being abrupt and not giving enough reasons.

But he DID. Very good, very articulate, very well-though-out reasons. Something that so-few do. You, as an apparently fan of SWTOR, should be THANKING HIM for being so point-on and giving the devs something to go off of when / if they browse feedback and see what their players are liking, and what their players are NOT liking. He could have simply said 'Game sucks, cancelled today, bye losers!', and your posts and criticisms would be perfectly justified. But he did not.

Also, comparing your 'right' to kill yourself in a thatrical way does not equate to his 'right' to post a constructive opinion piece on a paid-for-product. Stop posting. Seriously.
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Pvtcarnage
01.26.2012 , 02:03 PM | #280
Quote: Originally Posted by Maniacal View Post
Yeah, saying you are not flaming when you are, infact, flaming by insulting a person does not equal a win. Or a pass for flagging.

However I will bite and answer you for the OP. He is posting this, and on Amazon, likely because he paid good hard-earned money for a product and recieved something that was less-than. What he recieved was a PRE-CURSOR to the product that was previewed to him. SWTOR is not a finished game, nor is it really fun in the long-term.

BOTH OF THESE ARE OPINIONS!

Opinions that he, I, you, and anyone else who decides to say so are not only allowed to state because we paid the same as you, who are on the forums exercising your own opinion, but perhaps we feel obligated to warn others from a possible purchase with our bought-and-paid personal experiences? Or maybe encourage others to think OUTSIDE the blind and loyal fanboy box to see the game for what it is and is not?

Suggesting someone is 'impaired' because they choose to write a post critiquing a game is not only obvious 'flaming', but downright insulting on a personal level. I feel bad for you.

EDIT: And to clarify for myself...MY issue with the game, and why -I- feel obligated to post such as this, is because I was promised and paid for a triple-A budget, high-quality, innovative and immersive MMORPG. Bioware did not deliver on ANY of these fronts...not for lack of time or resources, but I honestly feel they simply got lazy and were forced to rush it early. And they acquiesced. We, as players, were betrayed by a greedy company, and until they show a real drive and determination to not only FIX the game but LISTEN to their players I will continue ( at least for the next month of my sub ) to be vocal in my support of those who choose to express their opinions be they good or bad.
If i was not so lazy I could have not written it any better +1
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