No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

Exactly. The jacket is only cosmetical. You can put those mods in any gear, you can get the mods from any crafter. So the roll for an orange jacket is purely a cosmetical roll, a Marauder and an Agent have more or less equal rights to it. The Marauder just has to put a bit more effort into making the jacket actually work out.

If an agent claims he "needs" that jacket, then that agent is basically saying "Hey, I'm too cheap to craft/buy a couple of mods and put them into about any jacket, like the one I got on one of my missions on Dromund Kaas. There is no NEED for orange gear, except for its cosmetics. The stats can very easily be aquired otherwise.

Well, first of all I would never roll need on an item that another person needed more in a group (well unless we play the same class).
However, if for example something orange drops that I can use even if the stats are wrong, I would need roll on it IF I like the look, to mod it up to fit my needs.

Now

This is why Bioware needs to micro-manage loot distribution. Because dolts like yourself are too immature to respect other peoples' needs.

This is also why /LFG needs to be kept same server. So everyone puts this guy on their iggie list and he eventually never gets groups.

Agreed.

In a Massively Multiplayer game, players need to be learn to play Massively well with others.

Indeed. the shaman in bear form that spam clicked to loot everything off of the 10th ring war fight...that's ninjalootingl.

someone who contributed to the fight, rolling with an even chance of loot... not a ninjalooter even if you disagree with why he threw his hat into the ring

I really don't see why that's such a hard notion to grasp...

I don't understand why it's an issue ... not because of anything you stated ... but because so many people who obviously feel strongly enough to be able to type our their feelings on the matter here on these forums seem to be utterly incapable of discussing with three or seven other people in game before the run begins.

Don't assume everyone by default has the same views about loot you do. All it takes is a quick discussion before you drop the first mob which once everyone is on the same page, the only type of person you truly have to worry about is the real ninja/thief that states they agree with the group's policy and then rolls counter to it. And while those types certainly exist, they are far fewer than those who simply have a differing view on what's fair for loot rules and aren't willing to compromise or go along with the group majority for a single run.

But hey, if you (that's a general "you" and not the person I quoted) want to assume that everyone thinks they way you do about it and then by all means, continue to say nothing in-game to your group before the run starts and then come here whining about the alleged injustice of someone rolling Need on an item you felt you deserved. You're only painting the picture clearer on how much a fool you are.

Honestly, I think it's because SWTOR introduces a lot of different "needs" that people aren't accustomed to dealing with. Whether it's an appearance-only option, or gearable companions, there are far more potential uses for items than people are used to. Historically, most items pretty much fell into a single "Best for Class X" bin, with potentially an acceptable "Acceptable for Class Y". That made the definition of "need" easy. It isn't any more, and the commonly-established norms haven't quite caught up yet.

Of course, a lot of them also feel that their priorities should overrule and apply to everyone else, many to the point of threatening to blacklist people if they don't adhere to THEIR priorities. It's really ironic that they're the ones calling others rude and selfish.

Be realistic.

The person that needs on everything knows darn well on how the general public feels. I guarantee they have been yelled at and kicked out of groups in the past. If they have these anti-social views, THEY should make it clear at the start of the group.

Of course, I bet they have a pretty hard time finding groups that would allow them to need on all, but its the honorable thing to do. Then again, their action lacks honor so ................

Exactly. It's a lame move and most players will not do this. Does he have the right to do it? Yes, under the game rules. Do you have the right to never group with him again, to put him on your ignore list and to let others know that he rolls need on things he can't equip? Yes. It's happened to me, just like I'm sure it's happened to all of us...and it sucks. But until BW changes the loot system, that's about all you can really do about it. Not every single person will agree with you but most will agree that guy is a tool for doing that.

However, I politely questioned someone in a FP about rolling need on something that they couldn't equip but that I could. He said he wasn't paying attention and shouldn't have rolled need on it and apologized about 3 times for it throughout the FP including when we were all done. Rage will usually be met with rage so I'll always give someone the benefit of the doubt at first.

But if they want to play the roll for need on everything game, I just won't group with them any more and I'll stick with people who play with a little consideration for others. This is probably the main reason I don't like the idea of a LFG tool that just throws everyone into a que...especially not a cross-server one. People that roll need on stuff they can't equip should have to live with the consequences of their reputation and find it more difficult to get into groups.

I'm guessing by the amount of lamenting in this thread that most complaining have never played EVE Online, or if they have they must have spent weeks saving up for a Hulk only to get ninja looted and ganked the first hour they had it out.....lmao

The entitlement attitude in here stinks more than the occupy hippies...haha