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Bioware - Implorment (?) from a genuine fan

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Bioware - Implorment (?) from a genuine fan

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Mhak
01.26.2012 , 11:21 AM | #1
Let me preface a little here. I was an early access player, day 1 of it. I had per-ordered super early. I got into beta weekend after beta weekend. I was soooo stoked about this game. I convinced a RL buddy to purchase it after release (he's still on his way to 50, testing the waters) . SWTOR is something I've been looking forward to for a long time, and when I finally got my hands on it, I was pretty happy. Leveling up to 50 was a blast.

Level 50 was a blast for a while too. I wasn't one of the people who got there super-fast, but since I played from day 1 EA and knew most of the pre-40 content from the beta, I still got there decently fast. Was raiding EV after only a few weeks there with some friends I made in the community; now we're all in the same guild. At the moment I have a full set of Columni/Rakata gear for and from PvE raiding, and a full set of champ gear, 620 expertise for and from PvP. Same with most people in my guild.

We're all afraid we'll be quitting SWTOR soon and searching for greener pastures =/ Afraid is a key word there. We don't WANT to leave SWTOR. We are all similar-minded people who loved SWTOR and want to keep loving it. But you make doing that so damn hard, Bioware!

Yesterday we tried to do a HM EV clear followed by a HM crack at KP. Bugs wouldn't allow 2 of our people to get into HM EV. They weren't saved. Hadn't set foot in there. They restarted the game, then their computers, no luck. There was sadly no option to reset the instance for some reason, either it was removed or it is another bug.

So we went over to KP, figuring we'd just try that instead. Now, two different people bugged on the shuttle trip inside the Operation, and it wouldn't them them enter the main area. Same thing, restarts, reforming, ect. No luck. Just flat out not able to get in. Unfortunately, this is far from the first time we've experienced game-breaking bugs in PvE. From bosses dropping no loot to bosses bugging out every attempt and resetting and not letting us progress, to boss kills not counting for daily/weekly credit we've had more than our fair share of rage at this game so far.

Should I even go on about PvP? You know how many complaints you're getting in that department, you hardly need another one. From the lack of/broken OW PvP to the pure-Korean grindfest that is Valor, where's the innovation? The system needs massive changes and you've thrown us only crumbs so far, and those crumbs are not feeding the hungry beast that is your PvP fanbase.

Bioware, I don't hate this game. I want it to be something that occupies my time for years to come! I want to get immersed in this world and have fun, but from a AAA title game, I'm honestly shocked. Bugs that prevent us from playing (ie the EV/KP bugs)? PvP with ZERO innovation from previous established titles? Bioware, what the hell is going on?

But what hurts the most is that I don't hear anything from the Devs. I don't hear "Guys, we know there's some really big problems and we promise we're working on them. We promise we're making changes. We promise we're close to fixing these things." Instead of admitting there are problems you act like nothing is wrong with this game! And that's what scares me the most! And what might, ultimately, drive away me and several other fellow customers who wanted to love this game.

I implore you Bioware, please....give us something! Give us hope for the future! Changes! Stop pretending like nothing is wrong! If you honestly believe nothing is wrong...that's a sign we need to stop wasting our time here because things won't ever get better. =/ I have faith in you guys to turn things around (the changes required aren't exactly sweeping overhauls...but they are pretty big), but we need to know they are coming!

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Bionixx
01.26.2012 , 11:22 AM | #2
They are aware of many issues but don't want to acknowledge them because it's bad press. Some bugs are being stealth fixed.
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Asuka
01.26.2012 , 11:23 AM | #3
Dev Tracker/Community Blog/Forums are your friend. Try them out, you might be surprised to find out what BW has been saying.

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Mhak
01.26.2012 , 11:24 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Asuka View Post
Dev Tracker/Community Blog/Forums are your friend. Try them out, you might be surprised to find out what BW has been saying.
I'm on them, believe me. And the future updates things. Yeah. Those are the crumbs I was talking about.

We need a lot more than that. We need the game-breaking problems to be specifically addressed. And we need the broken systems to be specifically addressed.

They haven't been so far.

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run_hello
01.26.2012 , 11:27 AM | #5
Endgame bosses are a hot mess. I bugged out in the middle of Soa, got caught up in his tornado. Then was dropped just as the floor collapsed. But the floor wasn't there anymore of course. So I'm ported to the very bottom and rooted in the middle of the room. The battle is going on around me and I don't see anyone, except for their icons on the mini-map.

Naturally they killed Soa for the first time and I got no credit for the mission or access to loot. This was after multiple bugs on the previous bosses.

It's laughable how borked endgame content is in this game. Don't even get me started on the way looting is set up.

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Oceanzen
01.26.2012 , 11:27 AM | #6
Is implorment even a word?

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Dawginole
01.26.2012 , 11:27 AM | #7
All of you people that are like the OP are the same. You're living in a fast food world with fast food expectations. The game has been out a month. Get over it. It will be fixed in due time. If you can't wait for fixes due to your impatience, leave, we won't miss you.

Quote: Originally Posted by pipda View Post
This is very true. But will all the other MMOs and games coming out I don't think the MMO community will be paying much attention to TOR by the time they become competitive.
OMG LOL. This is the same post on every message board within the first month of launch. They said this when I started FFXI, WoW, FFXIV, and this. Everything I have ever played, some kid is poo poo'ing within a month that all the problems that affect HIM are not being fixed and HIS "community" of players is going to leave. Not ever stopping to think that the Dev team also may have to address issues and bugs in other areas of the game where other groups are playing. But he doesn't ever consider this because his community is the "heart and core of the game".

Then he threatens that some other game is on the horizon and this game will lose all its players to this other new game. Then he goes to play the new game and after a month he starts posting that all the problems that he is concerned about aren't being fixed and his community is the core of the game keeping it alive and if they don't fix his concerns he will be moving on to this other new game.

Blah, blah, blah. It's all the same. ONE MONTH. SIX DAYS. MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER GAME.

These are not magicians. They don't go into work each day and wave a wand. They go into work like everyone else for an 8+ hour day and analyze the problem and try their best to fix it as fast as possible. Then they go home to see their families and their kids, and to eat dinner, and maybe have a time to enjoy their own night for 30 damn minutes to watch TV before they go to bed to have to get up at the crack of dawn again the next day to come back to work to fix some problem some pre-pubescent clown is screaming about on an Internet forum so that he doesn't leave the game. ::::::::::::::

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Mhak
01.26.2012 , 11:29 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Oceanzen View Post
Is implorment even a word?
Probably not. But I wasn't pulling a Palin on you, I just haven't had coffee yet.

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Mekrath
01.26.2012 , 11:31 AM | #9
Great post. I started beta testing in August and also started on day 1 of EA. A week ago I resubscribed for 6 months, and then yesterday I just kinda lost the desire to log in. I don't raid but I do PvP, and everything you say about it is accurate. I have an account till July, so I will certainly give them a chance to improve things, but as of now it's just not worth my time. Spending hours PvPing and getting several bags with nothing but useless Centurion tokens? No thanks. I'm no closer to competing with people with better gear than I was before I started. I want to feel like I'm progressing when I spend hours playing, my time is worth something to me.

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Mhak
01.26.2012 , 11:31 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Dawginole View Post
All of you people that are like the OP are the same. You're living in a fast food world with fast food expectations. The game has been out a month. Get over it. It will be fixed in due time. If you can't wait for fixes due to your impatience, leave, we won't miss you.
Be careful what you wish for. When you say "All of you people that are like the OP", you are addressing a huge number of raiding players with growing disillusionment, and that number is growing every day. If you want all of them to leave you'd have a game with a much smaller playerbase and it would just be shrinking as more and more people came to experience endgame content.

We'd rather stay and see changes for the better. If we don't speak out about these changes we want, then we'd have no one to blame but ourselves for never seeing them. We have to speak out; it's how MMOs grow. Player feedback. Telling us to "get over it" when we're spending our money is extremely immature.