No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

Um, couldn't the very same logic be applied to the Mara? More to the point, since the IA can use it as it, and the Mara would basically be obtaining marginal utility from it, why is it that the class who can actually USE it as designed has to grind for it?

Additionally: some companions really don't get much marginal benefit from pimping them out in gears. Vette does only if you're a Jugg, a DPS mara really gets zero benefit from Vette as all she does is die due to the Mara having no tanking tools. I've been researching this and it's interesting, some companions (particularly tanks for healers and healers for tanks) NEED purple gear or modded oranges, most of the DPS and ranged tanks don't get much benefit at all.

Well i have to admit as a marauder who got totally boned with appearance i would love to have that jacket. Just take out the mods and throw them out of the window and put warrior mods in






I meant if no agent is present.

I said it yesterday, I'll say it today - I don't think classes should be completely blocked off from the Need button because it "isn't their item." That said, there was a good suggestion yesterday about having a class that can use the item, as it has a primary stat for them, getting a bonus to their Need roll to sort of "balance it out" should a Consular and a Knight both hit Need on a Willpower robe. Obviously the Consular should "need" it more, so he's more likely to win it.

This way, you can easily see who's hitting Need on everything without it being a big problem, and you can have people who aren't the classes needed able to hit Need and have a shot at winning it after the ones that can use it, and everyone's (mostly) happy.

No matter what though, you will always inevitably get those people who try to screw the system - Consulars that will roll Need on every Consular equipment, etc. Those, we just have to deal with on a person-by-person basis. Confront them, but be courteous about it. Don't put them to the stake for a first-time offense, but sure as hell burn them if they do it consistently.

Very simply, if i'm in a group and someone needs on an item that obviously of no use to them when its an upgrade for another player they would be asked to explain themselves. If they have a good reason (Aimsaber for instance) then fine. In future they'll be asked to let us know before Needing next time so it can be discussed.

If they have no reason other than 'cause I want it' they get booted and put on the Jawa Looter list.

And in this game there are consequences to getting a bad reputation. The servers are not so large that word doesn't get around.

Random side note: It's really sad just how far we've defined down 'ninja looter'.

Used to be that meant someone waiting for you to kill a mob, and then looting it before you had a chance to, without ever having contributed. That was actually stealing. Now, it means that you fight and contribute to killing something just like everyone else in the group, but take an even roll chance of claiming an item that someone disapproves of your intended use for.

And I'll say again that that's what we're talking about here: Player A disapproves of the use Player B plans for an item, and thinks it's not as important as the use they'd put it to. Having a wife who plays with me, trust me - to some players, appearance is way, WAY more important than the stats. You sitting there and telling them what uses are and aren't acceptable - or, to borrow a phrase, that they're playing wrong - is what's really rude and selfish.

My definition of "ninja looter" is about as close as you can get to the old one - the "ninja" waits until everyone hits Greed, then hits Need, ensuring he gets the item as he is the only one hitting Need.

Ah, shame, next thread please.

This is not WoW! Rolling greed ruins the community!

Normally im healer or tank. Person needs an up for me that he just wants to strip sell or give to companion. I let him die. Over and over and over and over. "dude heal me!!!" my reply "dude I would but im slightly outta gear set here and a good upgrade would make it so I can watch over your big head."

Companions are simply one step above hunter pets in wow. They have to be seriously geared to make a difference in anything. If you compare your companion to a mob same level they are about 75% an equal mob if geared close or to there level.